Damn Smart Aleck GM Engineers
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Damn Smart Aleck GM Engineers
Ok , so with the new EBL system in the computer, I've been trying to get ol' whale started consistently, no stalls or near stalls, no three and four times at the key till it finally but barely keeps running. . So I figured I'd better start from scratch again and loaded the start routine from the stock Calibration back into the ECM.
Forgot it was there this morning.
Oh crap! This is gonna hurt!
Cranked it over, caught right away, stayed running, no stalls, no shuddering on it's way to stall (unlike Uncle Phil when he had that heart attack), Nice smooooooth idle.
Damn Smart aleck GM engineers
What makes those clowns think that with millions of dollars, brilliant minds, state of the art diagnostic equipment and 24/7/365 dynos and test tracks, that they can do something better than me with a laptop, a few day old donuts and a glove box full of tow truck receipts!
DAMN SMART ALECK GM ENGINEERS!
Forgot it was there this morning.
Oh crap! This is gonna hurt!
Cranked it over, caught right away, stayed running, no stalls, no shuddering on it's way to stall (unlike Uncle Phil when he had that heart attack), Nice smooooooth idle.
Damn Smart aleck GM engineers
What makes those clowns think that with millions of dollars, brilliant minds, state of the art diagnostic equipment and 24/7/365 dynos and test tracks, that they can do something better than me with a laptop, a few day old donuts and a glove box full of tow truck receipts!
DAMN SMART ALECK GM ENGINEERS!
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Re: Damn Smart Aleck GM Engineers
I'd bet it's my own stupidity long before I'd fix blame on that man.
To fix it, it was one of Rbob's "stock" calibrations used, that comes with the EBL CD.
I'm the one who modified it, not Rbob.
To fix it, it was one of Rbob's "stock" calibrations used, that comes with the EBL CD.
I'm the one who modified it, not Rbob.
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Pardon me for a few minutes. I've got to clean up all this drool and slobber from the keyboard.
Damn it Dom! Warn people before you post that picture!
Damn it Dom! Warn people before you post that picture!
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Oh well, maybe in my next life I'll be able to afford one. With my luck, both Heaven and Hell will be using electric cars.
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Holds the World's Record for a Production vehicle for average speed over
5000km and miles. Done in 24hours @175mph average. Did I mention it was truly an amazing motor?
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Re: Damn Smart Aleck GM Engineers
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And make the engine "happy". I almost miss those harsh/smart/condesending comments. He would bait you with a challenging comment then bash you for your answer lol. Damn he knew this stuff though...
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Oh well, maybe in my next life I'll be able to afford one.
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Dom, it appeared you offered up a link in the earlier post. I could not get it to open. Free free to send it to my email lakeffect@gmail.com
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And Bob (Rbob?) is certianly an invaluable resource. I just wish I could get him to hold a class on this or something. I'd bring my car, laptop, case of beer, whatever and be there!
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Re: Damn Smart Aleck GM Engineers
antman,
You know Bruce started a annual or semi-annual meeting in Greenwood OH where we would get together to discuss tuning and demo some things we were working on. We actually had 1 or 2 of these after Bruce's passing as a memorial. Maybe we should do another one?
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antman,
You know Bruce started a annual or semi-annual meeting in Greenwood OH where we would get together to discuss tuning and demo some things we were working on. We actually had 1 or 2 of these after Bruce's passing as a memorial. Maybe we should do another one?
You know Bruce started a annual or semi-annual meeting in Greenwood OH where we would get together to discuss tuning and demo some things we were working on. We actually had 1 or 2 of these after Bruce's passing as a memorial. Maybe we should do another one?
Seriously, I am interested. I feel like there are a few key pieces of info that would shed a whole lot of light on the subject for me.
Grumpy would challenge me to think... I don't want the answer just given but show me how to get there. Maybe a clue here and there...
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Originally Posted by antman89iroc
Well I didn't know that but Bruce sure was a character. His username seemed to fit him well.
And Bob (Rbob?) is certianly an invaluable resource. I just wish I could get him to hold a class on this or something. I'd bring my car, laptop, case of beer, whatever and be there!
And Bob (Rbob?) is certianly an invaluable resource. I just wish I could get him to hold a class on this or something. I'd bring my car, laptop, case of beer, whatever and be there!
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Re: Damn Smart Aleck GM Engineers
Made you answer your own question to make you understand why you were doing something (and the downsides of doing it)
Teach you to fish.

You know Bruce started a annual or semi-annual meeting in Greenwood OH where we would get together to discuss tuning and demo some things we were working on. We actually had 1 or 2 of these after Bruce's passing as a memorial. Maybe we should do another one?
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I'd love to participate. It wouldn't be that bad of a drive from Rochester NY to anywhere in Ohio.
Highway mode, here we come!
Any local, community colleges with with an Auto Tech dept to host it? Do I hear Guest Speaker?
Highway mode, here we come!
Any local, community colleges with with an Auto Tech dept to host it? Do I hear Guest Speaker?
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