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Old Oct 23, 2000 | 06:52 PM
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frigging cooling fans!!

Ive had the same problem for a year now. I about gave up on it and hooked a fan up to the ignition. I got two fans right. Can sombody tell me the actual way they are supposed to run. Every shop has a diffirent story. The fan on the driverside I thouht was supposed to go on with the A/C. Thats all I know.
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Old Oct 23, 2000 | 07:23 PM
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The factory fan function varied by year. What year and what engine?

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Old Oct 23, 2000 | 11:38 PM
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Sorry, Im stupid. ITs a 91 Z-28 305 tpi.
right now I just got the passenger side fan wired to the ignition. It has an ADS superchip. I think thats who makes it. Isnt that supposed to turn on the fan earlier?
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Old Oct 24, 2000 | 08:17 AM
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Okay, here goes. The primary fan (driver's side) turns on when

1) Engine temp rises to 223 degrees or
2) A/C is engaged and vehicle speed is over ~35 mph or
3) The ALDL diagnostic terminal is grounded.

#1 & #2 are ECM controlled.

The secondary fan turns on when

1) Engine temp rises to ~243 degrees or
2) A/C is engaged and vehicle speed is over ~35 mph.

#1 is controlled by the fan switch located in the passenger side head. #2 is ECM controlled.

If your fan(s) are not engaging as specified, the only approach is to locate the problem and fix it BEFORE any changes are made.

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Old Oct 24, 2000 | 08:59 AM
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Addendum to secondary fan #2:

The secondary fan turns on if the pressure on the A/C liquid line is above 232 psig (150 F for R-12). There is a pressure switch on the liquid line. The ECM monitors the status of the secondary cooling fan. The secondary fan should run on a very hot day with the A/C on.

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Old Oct 24, 2000 | 09:15 AM
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Willie,

I think you meant to say "...and vehicle speed is under (vice over) ~35..." for both fans.

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Old Oct 24, 2000 | 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Stuart Moss:
Willie,

I think you meant to say "...and vehicle speed is under ~35..." for both fans.
Thanks Stewart. It was very early this morning when I posted -- the brain wasn't functioning yet.

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Old Oct 24, 2000 | 07:51 PM
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So the driver side is the primary fan? Does my chip affect its turn on point? Last time I checked the motor was still good for the fan. She ran hot as hell today in the city.
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Old Oct 25, 2000 | 07:54 AM
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Yes, the driver's side is the primary fan & the on & off temperature thresholds are programmed in the PROM.

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