im wanting to put a keyless entry/ remote start alarm on my car but i have no idea what branks/models are good. i found this one on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33724
lemme know what you think. this will probably be a self-install and i have no clue how complicated its going to be so any help would be appreciated.

 

Check this out. I have a 91 RS with t-tops. I just bought an alarm for my car. TWO weeks later my car got broken into. They busted my steering column and tried to steal the car. LUCKLY I did buy the alarm with the kill switch and hid the alarm pretty good so they didn't get my car. THANK ***. I have a CRIME GUARD 745i3. It has lots of features and it's pretty good. It's a $200 system but I don't know if it has remote start. I wouldn't want it anyways. Somebody could just grab your code when you arm it and start it from the remote. Then when you are gone they just arm the car and start it with out the alarm going off cause they programed their own code into the alarm. It's been done before. The alarm I have will let you know how many transmitters are capable of operating the car. I love this alarm. Go to www.crutchfield.com
I think that's the web site. Good luck. OH I found this alarm on ebay for $100. Happy hunting.

 

yeah that is a concern but i live in a little po-dunk *** town where nobody is that advanced, their idea of getting the codes for the alarm would be to snag the remote outta my hand. thats about as crafty as the thieves around here are. i live 15 mi south of fresno, ca so nobody around here steals anything except little fart pipe imports (which i couldnt care less about) but what kind of features do you look for when selecting an alarm like that? if it doesnt have remote start i still want keyless entry cause i plan on shaving the handles & locks.

 

Clifford Matrix alarm, it's really nice, it has a guarintee and it has alot of extra channels for shaved handles, auto windoes, whatever, also if someone is trying to pick up your signal it will detect that too. I've had mine for a while now and I really like it. Remember that it is very hard to hot wire even a stock 89'+ Camaro because of the VATS.
Best alarm is keeping your car in your garage and have a 95lb Pitbull, never had a problem w/ my car:lala:

 

My alarm has 22 features......they are

1. Transmitter programming ( up to 4 )
2. Securecode Programming
3. Chirp Confirmation
4. 30/60 second activated alarm cycle ( how long the alarm goes off)
5. Automatic Sensor Zone Bypass
6. Auxiliary output #2 also disamrs system ( remote start )
7. Last Door Arming ( when you turn your car off and shut the last door the alarm will automatic arm itself.
8. Door Lock with last door arming
9. Parking Light Illumination Upon Disarm
10. Starter Interrupt Operates in Valet Mode
11. Valet Mode
12. .8/3 second doorlock pulse ( have no Idea )
13. Ignition-Activated Vehicle Recovery
14. Door-activated Vehicle Recovery ( after the doors are locked and engine is started, if the doors are forced open the engine will die )
15. Automatic Rearming
16. Doors Lock with automatic rearming
17. 3/45 second arming delay
18. Doors lock at ignition


I forget the rest but If you go to the site www.crutchfield.com and look in car accessories you will find it. Or look it up on ebay. It's called CRIME GUARD 745i3

 

The crimestopper cs2011 is a good unit and has the features that you're after. When you order, make sure to get two relays to invert the polarity for the door locks.

A thirdgen car alarm & remote start install guide is avaliable here:

http://www.p71interceptor.com/thirdgen/alarminfo

 

All car alarms manufactured within the past few years use some sort of rolling code system which makes "cloning" your remote next to impossible. Admitedly, if you've got a car with a 15 year old alarm in it, then you will not have the security of a rolling code algorithm.

As for brands & models, the crimestopper 2011 mentioned above has more features and better designed remotes than the crimeguard one from crutchfield has.

 

so it's a nice alarm. seriously, i've been looking at alarm's and i'm glad i stumbled upon this thread. that auction ends in 20 hours, so should i nab one???
or two, since my dad wants one in his toyota camry???

 

i was actually looking at that alarm and seriously thinking about getting it but it looks like im going to have to replace the fuel sender in my car so the alarm is going to have to wait for a bit (i already have one so not in a big rush) but that was the one i was going to buy and im sure they will come up for auction again on ebay so ill prolly end up picking one of those up here in the next couple months. is it hard/time consuming to install one of those yourself?

 

It took me two days. The first day I started about 8 in the morning and stopped at midnight. The next day I started again about 9 in the morning and ended at 1 or 2 pm. The first day was mostly tracking down what wire leads to where and does what. The gut before me had an alarm in the car I now own. So I had to re-track all the wires and fix his mistakes ( there was alot ). So it really depends on you. If you have patience and have at least 2 days to do it then I'd say go for it. Make sure you have a chilton or a haynes book. I have only have haynes book. If you want the better book get a chilton. If you have time and want to save about 80-100 bucks then do it yourself. If you don't trust yourself or don't want to track down the wires ( almost ripping out the whole under dash, both driver and passanger side ) then get somebody else to do it. I did it my self and it works good.

 

well my car already has an alarm, but it doesnt have the remote start. and i have a chilton's manual (actually 2 of them, bought 1 given 1) and so i was thinking that if i didnt want to mess with rerunning all the wires i could just use the ones that are already there for the alarm and just run new ones for the remote start and windows etc. and there is also that wiring table diagram thingy that is linked in this thread and im sure that would prove useful. and i have the tendency to be able to whiz through most electrical jobs so i think im most likely going to tackle this one myself, unless im feeling lazy or dont have the time to do it all at once.

 

I have the Crimestopper 2011 on my car with the remote start, and I love it! I installed it myself in about 2 full days. Make sure you solder all of your connections. If you have any specific questions, shoot me an email or PM. I also have all the wiring diagrams for our cars (on CD), so I can get you pointed in the right direction. Thomas

 

if you do buy one, get a proximity sensor.. a DIGITAL one.. not that other ****ty kind. alpine makes a really good one. and if you have an alpine deck you can play it with the remote.. just go to the alpine website.

i was thinking about putting a kill switch somewhere on my car.. or the starter solenoid.. no way to steal it at all then.. but you have to hide the switch realllllly good.

 

I installed a Crime Guard 745i4 in my 90 IROC. I got it from Crutchfield, along with the two wiring harness adapters for the starter circuit and door locks. It took me 4 long days to install, but that's because I wanted it done "my way", also used this opportunity to clean up some other electrical issues from previous owner. Had to solder up & heat-shrink some wiring harness extensions since I didn't want to mount the unit under the dash (default alarm shop location), also fabricated a bracket for the underhood pin switch (to avoid hole drilling, blue wire).

The Crime Guard manual is pretty good, but the little notes pages for the two sensors leaves some explanations "to be desired". For the installation, it sure helped to have the GM Service Manual to show were all the factory connectors and modules were, and it was critical for the troubleshooting. I had previously removed the fog lights from my car, and picked up the GM brown wire for the parking lights at the defunct fog light relay under the hood. Routed three wires through the grommet by the steering column (siren, hood pin, parking lights), definitely needed extension wires there (more soldering, heat-shrink).

The adapter harnesses are terrific, although my door lock harness had the stupid diodes wired in backwards, 2 days to troubleshoot that (it was very baffling), part #2034, but because of the "connectorization", still worth it. Because of the troubleshooting with the door lock/unlock harness, I ended up using the internal relay outputs of the 745i4 alarm box instead of the little red connector.

I did have to drop the steering column to get to the connectors on top of the column (it wasn't that bad). discovered a stripped bolt from the factory, had to go to Sears and buy a metric tap & die set "right now" to fix it, $75, ouch. The factory blue connector from the steering column didn't fit into the harness because it had a locking tab on the side. unfortunately, I had to cut that off and file it smooth. that's the only "defacement" I had to do to my car to make it fit.

My factory drivers' side door pin switch fell apart when I tried to remove the blade connector, so I had to install one of the kits' pin switches there and make up an adaptor wire assembly (more soldering, heat-shrink), to also connect to the alarm courtesy light input (green/purple wire, ground the black/red wire).

I would suggest buying a new 9V battery before you do the installation, since you don't want to trust the no-name-brand back-up battery that comes with the kit, and once installed, not trivial to get to. I started taking installation shortcuts with my microphone and "radar" sensor and valet switch, since it was 3am and I was burnt out. I already know I'll have to revisit that again later and do it right.

The antenna wire is kinda long, but I snaked it through the conole and under the dash, successfully using up all it's length. The manual says to get it up high, but I wasn't up to running it up the door pillar (more disassembly with diminishing returns). I didn't have to install any relays, although if I had more time and energy, I could use one of the aux outputs for the rear hatch (some other time, maybe when I get the Echo 2).