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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 06:20 AM
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Custom gauges/dash

i am thinking of disighning a custom gauge cluster (using stock speedo and tach at least for now) and i had a few questions. in order to maximize the ammount of gauges i can fit i am using "2-1/16" size gauges. i am going to get an oil temp gauge. which one of the following would be better:

1. summit part # ATM-2638 (oil temp 100*-250* z-series)
2. summit part # ATM-2639 (oil temp 140*-300* z-series)

or in lamens trms, "how hot is our oil suposed to get?"

also, for the fuel level guage. the catalog says most GM cars use 0 ohms for empty and 90 ohms for full, is that true wih f-body cars as well or are we the reason they say most and not all.

thanks for the help. i will keep you all up-to-date on this project if and when it progresses. if i do half as good a job as i would like it is going to kick ***.

in case you would like to know i am going to get the following guages:

oil pressure
oil temperature
cyl temperature
water temperature
fuel level
volt meter

i wanted to get a fuel pressure guage as well but the electric one that matches the rest is 180 bux. the rest are no more then fifty each. the total for them all is $248.14 since that is like a week and a half of pay and i have expenses this will not happen till feburary, unless i get some major money for christmas and my birthday (january).

the hardest part will be fabbing the custom bezel. i am going to need to fit six guages in that spot where two (big ones, fuel/water, batt/oil) now take up, could be difficult, pluss i will need to re-locate all those indicator lights that are built in to the guages. i will probably just have a bank of labeled LEDs. should look pimp. i am thinking of doing the bezel out of dash pad matereal pulled from any donor car i can find in the junk yard. i would like to use polished steel, but i have no means of cutting such matereal or bending the bottom and top edges without making it ugly.

any input would be appriciated
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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i know somoen knows, c'mon, i would tell you!!!!
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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if your oil temp goes above 250 you got a problem. should be about the same as the coolant temp.

as for the fuel guage its 0 ohms at empty, 90 at full. thats from my 86 ta service manual.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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you really don't need an oil temp, cylinder temp, AND water temp.....realistically one of these would work well enough and typically people choose a water temp only.
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 03:56 AM
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i would rather have oil or cyl temp then water temp. but i spose your right, i guess i dont need water if i am going to have the other two, well for thirty bux why not, gauges are cool.

::to all honda drivers:: maybe i should get a boost gauge too!!!
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by Xophertony
i would rather have oil or cyl temp then water temp. but i spose your right, i guess i dont need water if i am going to have the other two, well for thirty bux why not, gauges are cool.

::to all honda drivers:: maybe i should get a boost gauge too!!!
Gotcha ya cover in the V6 section. A vacuum gauge is also a nice addition. Helps with the gas mileage too.
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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i was originally planning to get auto meter gauges but my brother says they are crap, he just boght a brand new oil temp gauge and it broke allready.

what is everyones recommended gauge brand?
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Old Dec 13, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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autometer....nothing better.

also I use mechanical autometer guages whenever possible for temp guages.
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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why do you use mechanical instead of electric?
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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the tech at autometer told me that mechanical would show fluctuations in temp/pressure type guages better than electrical would....aka if the oil pressure hunted up and down at idle a mechanical would pick it up and the electric might not.
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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i am also disighning a custom gauge cluster im my 1991 camaro rs. doing the same thing also using the 2 1/16 gauges and i was only able to get 4 in mine they are (fuel, Temp, Oil, volts ) and a speedo 3 3/8 on the right side. the 2 1/16 gaudes went where the tach was. I used a some sheat meatel for my gauge cluster and used a roto saw to cut out the holes for the gauges im still mot done yet i would love to post some pic but i dont got a scaner.

I dont think your going to get 6, 2 1/16 in. gauges in you gauge cluster unless your doing it a different way then me but i was only able to get 4 in there where the tack is so im mounting the tach outside the cluster


All Gauges i used are the auto meter (ultra-light)

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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 06:47 AM
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well in my firebird there are Four big gauges

1. speedo
2. tack
3. fuel level/volts
4. watertemp/ oil prssur

i am removing three and four, not just the tack, i am actually leaving the tack(for now), so i think i will have room.
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 07:56 AM
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Dude check TomP 12 pod dash board. We were just talking about it.

<img src="https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/attachment.php?s=&postid=1160617">

Find a car like Toms and your set. I have an 86 bird too but mine doesn't look anything like his. I think just about every 3rd gen I have been in, had a slightly different interior.

Thats not a custome job but stock parts, though its the first time I have ever seen that dash.
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