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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Stock gauges are funked... need options..

Alright gents, my stock gauge cluster on the 87 IROC is pretty much fubar. The biggest problem is that piece of plastic with copper running through it that lines the back of the Cluster. I guess you could call that 80's PCB, gotta love 80's tech.

I've already run an external digital fuel gauge (it died just like everyone else's does), and upon completing that installation and attempting to reinstall the Gauge cluster, I am having problems that I don't think I want to sit around and diagnose. ( plug in the cluster, all the lights on the cluster become active, and the tach jumps to redline...im sure its a short, but im tired of these gauges)

Im in need of temporary solutions. Funding does not allow me the cash needed to pickup a Covans setup (which I intend to do in the future) currently. I need a temporary solution for the time being. I don't want to toss the gauges in lieu for another set as I have the coveted "145 mph speedo", and because it is coveted, I do not expect to get one cheaply. I am sure (I hope) that the "PCB" solution that GM had the audacity to slap in the back of these gauges no longer exists. Has an alternative to this been made? Anyone have suggestions for a temp solution while I build fundage for the Covans Classic gauge assembly ?
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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I have the same sort of problem. My entire gauge cluster is screwy with the exception of my gas gauge. I have no idea what it could be. Not that I've really checked, figured I'd see if anyone had any ideas first.

You know, to shorten the amount of time I have to work my tail off digging around.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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take out your gauge cluster (very easy to do) and the stone age technology they used to route everything will be evident... Copper "plating" substituted for wiring or even PCB under the guise of ??

Has anyone ever tried to make a PCB style setup for the gauges ?
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Actually it was wiring that was last used in the 1960's dash clusters that was thought to be stone age. The mylar backed instrument panel printed circuit has pretty much been standard in everything built since the 1970's. Their weakness is their fragile, and the copper tends to corrode. OEM, and reproduction printed circuits are available from many sources.
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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i have a 92 the tach is peged at redline and the odometer don't work. eveything else is good. can anyone explain why this is
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by oldschool
Actually it was wiring that was last used in the 1960's dash clusters that was thought to be stone age. The mylar backed instrument panel printed circuit has pretty much been standard in everything built since the 1970's. Their weakness is their fragile, and the copper tends to corrode. OEM, and reproduction printed circuits are available from many sources.
Please speak galantly of these many sources. I did not know such places existed. Hell, if this is true, then changing my fuel gauge may have been done in vain. Where can I find repro's ?
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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gauge box

I have a 86 ta gauge box that you may have if you pay shipping just pm me and i will arrange it. the front cover is cracked but you can use yours. and your gauges. I took the 145 mph speedo and put it in my 91 worked great after modding the prom for the propper pulses per mile.
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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will it work with my 92rs?
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Old Mar 12, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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not sure I know it will work with omnipotentgoku
87 but not sure about the 92 I think th pcb on the back is different. I removed the 145mph speedo and put it into my cluster box. so I don't know if the boxes are swapable.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 02:51 AM
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PM sent, your a life saver... Old school, im stil curious about those sources for these new skins..
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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Does anyone know anything about those OEM replacement "skinz" for the back of the gauge cluster (they would probably consider it a PCB of some sort). Oldschool mentioned that they were readily available, but i've not the foggiest idea where one would look for this.
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Old Apr 26, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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Okay folks, I need to know if this entire thread is BS... I am really in need of gauges and cannot afford to build a new cluster at the moment. I need to know.

1 - is their an aftermarket PCB/mylar board/replacement that Old school spoke of? I've not been able to find such a thing, yet was led to believe that it was a common thing.

2. I never heard back from the guy who offered the gauges, so does anyone else have a cluster they can part with, even if it is just for the pcb/mylar backing ?
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