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Which VSS?

Old Jan 18, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Which VSS?

The car I'm working with has a bad VSS (no speedo activity and throwing code). It is a 91' RS body and 700r4, but it's mated to an 87' TPI ECU. So which year does it need? Also it seems there are a couple of sizes available from autozone, depending on the year.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:06 PM
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Re: Which VSS?

You need a VSS to suit the computer not the car
VSS pulse signal changed in '90 from 2000 to 4000
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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Re: Which VSS?

Originally Posted by vetteoz
You need a VSS to suit the computer not the car
VSS pulse signal changed in '90 from 2000 to 4000
That makes sense. But will an 87 Vss fit a 91 700r4? I ask because the parts look different. Or are all the 700r4's pretty much the same?
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 02:05 AM
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Re: Which VSS?

Originally Posted by X-Ravin
That makes sense. But will an 87 Vss fit a 91 700r4? I ask because the parts look different. ?
The connector plug may be different but the fitment in trans is the same
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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Re: Which VSS?

Originally Posted by vetteoz
The connector plug may be different but the fitment in trans is the same
Ok, the only thing that looks different is a bracket on the 91 vss.

This is the pre 90 Vss



And this is the 90+ Vss
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Re: Which VSS?

Old VSS' had a hold down bracket similar to the one on the distributor

Older VSS' reversed the wires. Before you buy a new VSS, switch the wires and see if your speedo works again
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Re: Which VSS?

Originally Posted by Pocket
Old VSS' had a hold down bracket similar to the one on the distributor

Older VSS' reversed the wires. Before you buy a new VSS, switch the wires and see if your speedo works again
The VSS went out before the swap, so it's dead. I went ahead and ordered the sensor that is correct for the transmission and a Dakota SGI-5 to correct for the older computer and the 3.73's. Thanks for the wiring info, that may come in handy depending on how it was wired back to the ECU.
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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Re: Which VSS?

ANyone know the part number for the gear-drive speedometer AND the VSS pulse (2000)?
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Old Oct 22, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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Re: Which VSS?

Discontinued from GM (was the B4C VSS)

Look here
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/SpeedSensors_Order.html

Or here
http://www.transmissioncenter.net/sp...n_______va.htm
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Old Oct 31, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Re: Which VSS?

Thanks, Pocket! How about the one that fits inside the 700R4 trans speedometer mount are - AND has the gear-driven cable(with 2000ppm)????
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