Electronics Need help wiring something up? Thinking of adding an electrical component to your car? Need help troubleshooting that wiring glitch?

Brake lights out

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 08:31 PM
  #1  
Deck man's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: Leland Il. US
Car: 91 RS
Engine: 5 liter
Brake lights out

I found out today by a passing motorist that I didn't have any brake lights. The tail lights, turn signals work but not the brake lights including the high light. I checked the fuses and they all look fine. Need some guidance on where to look next.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 08:36 PM
  #2  
GShipp85Trans's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
From: Michigan
Car: 1985 Pontiac Firebird TransAm
Re: Brake lights out

Originally Posted by Deck man
I found out today by a passing motorist that I didn't have any brake lights. The tail lights, turn signals work but not the brake lights including the high light. I checked the fuses and they all look fine. Need some guidance on where to look next.
i am having the same problem, i think its something in the wiring but iv checked the wires i can get too and there fine so i cant figure out whats wrong
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 08:44 PM
  #3  
camarotucker's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 832
Likes: 1
From: Lawrence KS
Car: 91 z28
Engine: LS1
Transmission: 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.42
Re: Brake lights out

The brake switch is located on the brake pedal. Check for 12v at fuse, and keep checking the circuit until you find the break in it.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 08:44 PM
  #4  
shortyskater's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 314
Likes: 1
From: pembroke ma
Car: 1987 Chevy Camaro Iroc-Z
Engine: just an empty hole. LS1 coming soon
Transmission: nothing there either. T-56 soon!
Axle/Gears: soon Moser 9 bolt
Re: Brake lights out

Bad brake light switch could be the culprit. Check the bulbs as well.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 08:52 PM
  #5  
Deck man's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
From: Leland Il. US
Car: 91 RS
Engine: 5 liter
Re: Brake lights out

where is the switch located? Is it up high. I did a little poking around but didn't really crawl underneath the dash.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 09:06 PM
  #6  
shortyskater's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 314
Likes: 1
From: pembroke ma
Car: 1987 Chevy Camaro Iroc-Z
Engine: just an empty hole. LS1 coming soon
Transmission: nothing there either. T-56 soon!
Axle/Gears: soon Moser 9 bolt
Re: Brake lights out

right behind the brake pedel. its white/beige i believe. Its mounted to a bracket off the steering column if i remember correctly. Each time the pedal is pushed, it pushes a rod into the switch completing the circuit turnign the lights on.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 10:42 PM
  #7  
regal301's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 449
Likes: 0
From: RHODE ISLAND
Car: 1988 iroc-z
Engine: 350 Vortec TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 4th gen Torsen 10bolt
Re: Brake lights out

just some info, the brake light power after it leaves the pedal switch goes up through the turn/hazard switch before it gets to the brakelights.(the third does not)

a bad turn/hazard multifunction will kill your brake lights,but the third brake light will still work.

(BUT NOT ON THE CAMARO) on a firebird it will.

Last edited by regal301; Aug 22, 2011 at 11:53 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:40 PM
  #8  
Al Hasse's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,800
Likes: 2
From: Bremerton, WA
Car: 1992 RS / 1989 RS
Engine: 3.1L MFI / Vortec 383 TBI
Transmission: T5 / LS-T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42 open / 3.73 Eaton posi
Re: Brake lights out

Originally Posted by regal301
just some info, the brake light power after it leaves the pedal switch goes up through the turn/hazard switch before it gets to the brakelights.(the third does not)

a bad turn/hazard multifunction will kill your brake lights,but the third brake light will still work.
That might be true if the rear turn signals used the same bulbs as the brake lights. The OP's profile shows 91 Camaro RS, which has a separate circuit fo the brake lights and turn signals. Check the wiring diagram here..

http://www.austinthirdgen.org/mkport...ody_wiring.gif

Looking through the list of wiring diagrams by year, the Trans Am through 89, and all others through 85 have the brake light power go through the hazard switch.

http://www.austinthirdgen.org/index.php?pid=19

Last edited by Al Hasse; Aug 22, 2011 at 11:46 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:50 PM
  #9  
regal301's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 449
Likes: 0
From: RHODE ISLAND
Car: 1988 iroc-z
Engine: 350 Vortec TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 4th gen Torsen 10bolt
Re: Brake lights out

no...... i know,it slipped past me, i have a pontiac,and the camaro is one of the few that have seperate turn lamps from the brake lamps.

the multi switch is common on the caprice,blazers,berettas,etc.(the camaro is an exception)

good catch
Reply
Old May 17, 2016 | 09:19 PM
  #10  
Darlene Green's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Re: Brake lights out

I have a 89 camaro iroc z28...brake lights wont come on...have replaced brake switch, bulbs, fuses....please help....desperate!!

Last edited by Darlene Green; May 17, 2016 at 09:22 PM.
Reply
Old May 17, 2016 | 09:32 PM
  #11  
camarotucker's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 832
Likes: 1
From: Lawrence KS
Car: 91 z28
Engine: LS1
Transmission: 4L60e
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.42
Re: Brake lights out

Originally Posted by Darlene Green
I have a 89 camaro iroc z28...brake lights wont come on...have replaced brake switch, bulbs, fuses....please help....desperate!!
post #3, is there 12+ volts at the fuse?

http://austinthirdgen.org/mkportal/m...ody_wiring.gif

Last edited by camarotucker; May 17, 2016 at 09:36 PM. Reason: add link
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2017 | 04:42 PM
  #12  
tillyvick14's Avatar
Junior Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 49
Likes: 3
From: Albuquerque, NM
Re: Brake lights out

I just started having trouble with my brake lights (all of them including the high light) on my 91 firebird. If I cycle the hazard lights on and then off it seems to make the brake lights start working again for a short time. Does this help to find the problem? Thanks for any help you might have!
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2019 | 10:29 PM
  #13  
69pony's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Re: Brake lights out

Having a similar problem with my 88 formula. The brake lights and turn signal lights are on a different fuse. I have no brake lights or hazzard. The fuse was MELTED so not sure what happened.
Replaced the fuse and did not fix problem. I pulled one brake light and it was burned out. Replaced it and nothing. New fuse did not blow. I will check/replace hazzard blinker tomorrow. I just had the darn thing inspected Tuesday and everything was fine.
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2019 | 04:56 PM
  #14  
NINÅ's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,341
Likes: 10
From: Mooresville NC
Car: LOWERED ♦ CRIMSON METALFLAKE
Engine: ► 400 KUBES ◄
Transmission: 765R4
Axle/Gears: EATON POSI 4.56
Brake Break

Wire a small spare bulb such as a side marker.
Connect one lead to ground, the other lead to the
orange wire coming out of the STOP HAZ fuse.

If the circuit is good the lamp will stay lit.

Connect another spare bulb from ground to the
light blue wire coming out of the brake light switch.
If the circuit is good the lamp will light when you hit the brakes.

If the 2nd spare bulb ever fails to light, observe the first spare bulb.
If the first bulb is out, try the hazard trick and report.


Happy Racing !



Funny Car Fun Fact: Funnys reach over 300 miles per hour before you have read this sentence.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
wbrooks63
Exterior Parts Wanted
3
Oct 4, 2015 08:40 PM
SpaniardV6
Brakes
19
Sep 7, 2015 03:04 AM
stalkier
Electronics
1
Aug 21, 2015 01:54 AM
stalkier
Electronics
0
Aug 13, 2015 12:59 PM
Omega
Interior Parts for Sale
2
Aug 10, 2015 12:46 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:51 PM.