car doesn't crank...
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Car: 84 camaro, 88 trans am, 98 camaro
Engine: Modded , stock, LSX modded
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4, t-56
Axle/Gears: 327, 308, 373
car doesn't crank...
Im troubleshooting a cranking problem on a 1988 TBI 305/auto Trans am, my first question is does this year have VATS? Also is this a neutral safety switch for a manual? i found it under the dash..

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From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
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Car: 86' IROC-Z....and 5 other 3rdgens
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Transmission: built 700r4
Axle/Gears: stock 3.23, 10bolt
Re: car doesn't crank...
i believe the birds did have VATS in 88. the camaro got it in 89, corvette got it in 86
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From: Minnesota
Car: 84 camaro, 88 trans am, 98 camaro
Engine: Modded , stock, LSX modded
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4, t-56
Axle/Gears: 327, 308, 373
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From: Minnesota
Car: 84 camaro, 88 trans am, 98 camaro
Engine: Modded , stock, LSX modded
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4, t-56
Axle/Gears: 327, 308, 373
Re: car doesn't crank...
Im starting to wounder if thats the case... the previous owners before me said they swaped in a new steering column and it woudnt start so they put in a new ignition cylinder still woudnt start... now its become my problem, something else that iv tested was there is no draw what so ever on the battery when you are turning the key forward to engage the starter... iv only looked at this issue for a couple hours the last couple nights i had a buddy help me last night with both think its something easy...
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Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: car doesn't crank...
So the car is new to you , has never started?????
Should mention minor details like that because most would think you are trying to fix a sudden problem ,
not a screw up from a PO
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From: Minnesota
Car: 84 camaro, 88 trans am, 98 camaro
Engine: Modded , stock, LSX modded
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4, t-56
Axle/Gears: 327, 308, 373
Re: car doesn't crank...
Yeah i have no idea if the car is VATS. Yes car is new to me. Just trouble shooting someone elses problem that was never fixed. How can you tell if a car has vats?
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From: Minnesota
Car: 84 camaro, 88 trans am, 98 camaro
Engine: Modded , stock, LSX modded
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4, t-56
Axle/Gears: 327, 308, 373
Re: car doesn't crank...
When the keys is in the on potions "service engine lights on" no other lights when are on but when you turn the key to start it "service engine lights on" and the "brake" light comes on but goes away when you back off the crank. if this was a vats car wouldn't you see a security light? this car also has a stupid after market alarm system something else I'll have to look into i think.
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From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
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From: Minnesota
Car: 84 camaro, 88 trans am, 98 camaro
Engine: Modded , stock, LSX modded
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4, t-56
Axle/Gears: 327, 308, 373
Re: car doesn't crank...
i figured as much...
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Re: car doesn't crank...
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...onnectors.html
post #3 has a link to austinthirdgen, they have wire diagrams by model & year.
Maybe you can find help there??
post #3 has a link to austinthirdgen, they have wire diagrams by model & year.
Maybe you can find help there??
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From: Minnesota
Car: 84 camaro, 88 trans am, 98 camaro
Engine: Modded , stock, LSX modded
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4, t-56
Axle/Gears: 327, 308, 373
Re: car doesn't crank...
Turns out it was just the starter...
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From: greenfield indiana
Car: 86' IROC-Z....and 5 other 3rdgens
Engine: 383 hsr
Transmission: built 700r4
Axle/Gears: stock 3.23, 10bolt
Re: car doesn't crank...
haha wow. must be nice with it bieng that simple. online diag is so hard lol
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From: Minnesota
Car: 84 camaro, 88 trans am, 98 camaro
Engine: Modded , stock, LSX modded
Transmission: 700r4, 700r4, t-56
Axle/Gears: 327, 308, 373
Re: car doesn't crank...
Yeah! i just think its slightly funny and sad that the owner before me automatically thought it was a ignition issues and replaced the steering column and then ignition cylinder when the column didn't fix the issue... It's slightly my fault for falling victim to what he told me had been done and that he insisted it was something to do with the wiring.
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Car: 1988 Firebird Formula WS6
Engine: 305 tpi lb9
Transmission: 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.45
Re: car doesn't crank...
Makes me wonder how many people get these cars cheap from people that give up trying to fix a basic problem
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