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can i use a 1991 4 pin alternator in my 1986 trans am with a two pin connection ?

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Old Aug 24, 2018 | 04:53 PM
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can i use a 1991 4 pin alternator in my 1986 trans am with a two pin connection ?

my current alternator is bad and needs to be swapped out.the car is a 1986 trans am and it currently has the 2 pin white connector style alternator.
i recently bought a 1991 LB9 305 as a spare engine and it has a brand new 4 pin style alternator with it.( tag reads: wilson 90-01-4631 12v 2945 54 )

i was wondering if i can use the newer alternator and what do i need to hook up/change.i dont want to just wing it and overload my charging system.
i have this b/n alternator and not much extra money so this is why im trying to swap them.any help would be greatly appreciated,thank you.

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Old Aug 24, 2018 | 05:04 PM
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Re: can i use a 1991 4 pin alternator in my 1986 trans am with a two pin connection ?

I don’t think the cs alternator is a direct bolt in replacement for your si.
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Alternator-Co...ss!90011!US!-1

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Old Aug 24, 2018 | 05:09 PM
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Re: can i use a 1991 4 pin alternator in my 1986 trans am with a two pin connection ?

i took it out to my car and eyeballed it,the mounting points look the same other than the connector position is rotated about 30-35 degrees inward or clockwise
looking from the front of the car at the alternator(it currently has the passenger side mounting)

the adapter you linked seems like it would work(possibly/hopefully)
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Old Aug 24, 2018 | 05:11 PM
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Re: can i use a 1991 4 pin alternator in my 1986 trans am with a two pin connection ?

You can remove the case bolts and red lock the housing of the alternator.
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Old Aug 24, 2018 | 05:12 PM
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Re: can i use a 1991 4 pin alternator in my 1986 trans am with a two pin connection ?

good point,thanks.i guess i cant just use two spade connectors and put them over specific pins then?
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Old Aug 24, 2018 | 05:31 PM
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Old Aug 24, 2018 | 06:35 PM
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Re: can i use a 1991 4 pin alternator in my 1986 trans am with a two pin connection ?

so using these two examples,what wires from the two pin plug from the right diagram would i connect(and to what of the plis pins) to the four pins,sorry im not too electronically oriented and looking at both it is mildly confusing.
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Old Aug 24, 2018 | 06:45 PM
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Re: can i use a 1991 4 pin alternator in my 1986 trans am with a two pin connection ?

like #1 on the right diagram goes to what letter pin on the left diagram,same with #2.im probably under or over thinking it.

here are pics of my existing alternator and my new one



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Old Aug 24, 2018 | 07:08 PM
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Re: can i use a 1991 4 pin alternator in my 1986 trans am with a two pin connection ?

If you have a idiot light you need a resistor.
https://www.jegs.com/InstallationIns.../764-30707.pdf
terminal 2 from the si is bat power or hook to the large lug on the alternator.
terminal 1 is a ignition switch power.
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Old Aug 25, 2018 | 11:35 AM
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Re: can i use a 1991 4 pin alternator in my 1986 trans am with a two pin connection ?

i bought a pigtail ready to change it out,in the meantime i charged my battery for a day and a half.
i filed down the posts nice and clean as well as the terminals in the car,examined all the connections
and pulled the fuse for the amp(big *** wire that was there from a previous install)i hooked up the
battery and it fired right up.i just got back from a nice drive(in the rain F%$X...)and it started up fine so
that tells me the battery is good(also had it tested,results came back good)and the current alternator is
doing its job otherwise that 10-15 minute drive would've drained the battery fully.

so now i do have a plan if it happens again,thank you kindly for all your advice.
whoever had this car before went from side post connections to top post connections with a bolt?
its some mickey mouse macgiver nonsense that i will sort out in due time,thanks again sir....or madame

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