200 amp alternator wiring sizes
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Car: 1989 IROC Convertible
Engine: 350 TPI L98
Transmission: WC T5
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200 amp alternator wiring sizes
I think my two year old AC Delco "Professional" alternator died. Car charges at normal voltage for the first minute or two then clearly the voltage shows battery only.
Since I am after reliability and I have a few loads, I went with the not so cheap Powermaster 200 Amp replacement.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/PWM-48203
So now I don't want to make a toaster element out of my alternator wire and I'm not sure how big the factory one is.
According to ampacity charts, I need to run two 3-gauge alternator cables or bigger for 200 amps.
Then I might need to boost up the negative side.
Loads (conservatively rated):
85A: Factory IROC Camaro except for:
70A: 800W of audio amps
50A: Additional Fans
205A Total. Should work great.
I am thinking I may split off the alternator to a separate fused load block for the audio and additional fans.
Thoughts and experiences welcome.
Since I am after reliability and I have a few loads, I went with the not so cheap Powermaster 200 Amp replacement.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/PWM-48203
So now I don't want to make a toaster element out of my alternator wire and I'm not sure how big the factory one is.
According to ampacity charts, I need to run two 3-gauge alternator cables or bigger for 200 amps.
Then I might need to boost up the negative side.
Loads (conservatively rated):
85A: Factory IROC Camaro except for:
70A: 800W of audio amps
50A: Additional Fans
205A Total. Should work great.
I am thinking I may split off the alternator to a separate fused load block for the audio and additional fans.
Thoughts and experiences welcome.
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Car: 86 Imponte Ruiner 450GT, 91 Formula
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Transmission: 700R4 3000 stall.
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Re: 200 amp alternator wiring sizes
Well - I would return it and get something else. Unfortunately Powermaster is FTL. I have bought 3 of their products and their alternators (and starters) are garbage......
You can see my post on the subject including tear down, failure analysis, and repair in the product reviews subforum.
Ultimately there are no producers of quality components for the CS alternators. Look at DC Power Engineering or Mechman for CS conversion alternators that are worth your time.
GD
You can see my post on the subject including tear down, failure analysis, and repair in the product reviews subforum.
Ultimately there are no producers of quality components for the CS alternators. Look at DC Power Engineering or Mechman for CS conversion alternators that are worth your time.
GD
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Re: 200 amp alternator wiring sizes
Thanks GD. I just installed the Powermaster 200 amp. It's huge. And a 2 gauge alternator cable. Works great so far. Voltage doesn't move- no matter what.
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Engine: 350 Vortec, FIRST TPI, 325 RWHP
Transmission: 700R4 3000 stall.
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt Torsen 3.70
Re: 200 amp alternator wiring sizes
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Re: 200 amp alternator wiring sizes
Those are gorgeous. I hear you. But since it's in, I will roll the dice. Should it give me the same trouble, I will drop the coin on the DCPE one's.
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Transmission: 700R4 3000 stall.
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt Torsen 3.70
Re: 200 amp alternator wiring sizes
Well. I wish you good luck with it. But after 4 Powermaster products failed on me - two starters and two alternators. All in unreasonably short time frames..... I can not and will not ever buy one of their products again.
I know what their game is after the experiences I had. They are banking on 90% of what they are selling going to garage-kept cars that are driven 10 times a years to car shows and that's it. They know that the sub-standard Chinese components won't last but that's where the cut the corners. *Assemble* it in the US so they can waive the BIG American flag on the box and appeal to all the old timers that have a nicely restored hot rod that's never driven in their garage, and make their money on buying Chinese hot garbage in bulk to build them out of. No one will know if you polish that turd up real shiny and wrap it in an American flag! And the old timer ends up dead before the garbage fails anyway because again - driven 10 times a year. So 20 start/stops times 20 years..... the thing has to do about 500 cycles and it's served it's purpose.
GD
I know what their game is after the experiences I had. They are banking on 90% of what they are selling going to garage-kept cars that are driven 10 times a years to car shows and that's it. They know that the sub-standard Chinese components won't last but that's where the cut the corners. *Assemble* it in the US so they can waive the BIG American flag on the box and appeal to all the old timers that have a nicely restored hot rod that's never driven in their garage, and make their money on buying Chinese hot garbage in bulk to build them out of. No one will know if you polish that turd up real shiny and wrap it in an American flag! And the old timer ends up dead before the garbage fails anyway because again - driven 10 times a year. So 20 start/stops times 20 years..... the thing has to do about 500 cycles and it's served it's purpose.
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There are alternators guaranteed for life, but probably not 200 amps.
A way around that is to buy or fabricate a bracket and run 2 alts.
If you use alts made for a 5th Gen, you'll have 300 amps total.
The first alt will be for the car and its' usual equipment.
The second alt will be for the amps.
Use a second battery or capacitors.
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A way around that is to buy or fabricate a bracket and run 2 alts.
If you use alts made for a 5th Gen, you'll have 300 amps total.
The first alt will be for the car and its' usual equipment.
The second alt will be for the amps.
Use a second battery or capacitors.
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