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Old Aug 5, 2023 | 12:23 AM
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No horn, no headlights, no interior lights, and no door locks

As the title says I have no horn, headlights, interior lights, and Door locks. When I brake the front turn signals turn on, and when I turn my right blinker on it activates hazards. I changed brake light switch, fuses are good, and no Cross circuit bulbs. And lastly a week ago my car wouldn’t crank in parking lot. saw in another thread someone has same issue and it turned out to be fusible links to starter, do you guys think it could also be the same thing ?
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Old Aug 5, 2023 | 09:29 AM
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Re: No horn, no headlights, no interior lights, and no door locks

As already pointed out in your first thread, you have 2 completely unrelated unconnected problems.

The answers to both problems remains the same.

Your no-crank no-lights no-locks etc. problem could possibly be due to a fusible link failure. When you fix that, or whatever else broke in the chain of wiring that feeds battery to about half of the car, then that half of the car will start working again. Fix that first.

The other problem, about the turn signals, is due to a wiring cross. You have one whether you're willing yet to admit it or not. It of course will return unchanged when you fix the battery feed problem. The brake light switch, fuses, etc. were a waste of time and money, at least in regard to fixing this behavior. You have a problem where the right TS and brake filaments are getting cross-connected, for whatever reason. Posting on the Internet over and over will not make it go away. We out here cannot see into your car to identify what's touching or improperly installed for you, you've got to do the work yourself. You're just going to have to track everything. I'd suggest starting by removing all the bulbs and seeing if it clears up, once you have the fusible link related issue resolved; then re-installing them one at a time, until either it reappears, or you end up with them all back in right and it works like it's supposed to. If it acts weird with all the bulbs out then you have either a farkled socket or "improvements" to the wiring, which you'll have to track down and repair, before starting to put the bulbs back in.

2 separate issues. 2 separate troubleshooting processes. 2 separate repairs. Unrelated to each other in any manner way shape form or fashion, except that they both happen to be in the same car at the same time.
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Old Aug 6, 2023 | 02:10 PM
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Re: No horn, no headlights, no interior lights, and no door locks

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
As already pointed out in your first thread, you have 2 completely unrelated unconnected problems.

The answers to both problems remains the same.

Your no-crank no-lights no-locks etc. problem could possibly be due to a fusible link failure. When you fix that, or whatever else broke in the chain of wiring that feeds battery to about half of the car, then that half of the car will start working again. Fix that first.

The other problem, about the turn signals, is due to a wiring cross. You have one whether you're willing yet to admit it or not. It of course will return unchanged when you fix the battery feed problem. The brake light switch, fuses, etc. were a waste of time and money, at least in regard to fixing this behavior. You have a problem where the right TS and brake filaments are getting cross-connected, for whatever reason. Posting on the Internet over and over will not make it go away. We out here cannot see into your car to identify what's touching or improperly installed for you, you've got to do the work yourself. You're just going to have to track everything. I'd suggest starting by removing all the bulbs and seeing if it clears up, once you have the fusible link related issue resolved; then re-installing them one at a time, until either it reappears, or you end up with them all back in right and it works like it's supposed to. If it acts weird with all the bulbs out then you have either a farkled socket or "improvements" to the wiring, which you'll have to track down and repair, before starting to put the bulbs back in.

2 separate issues. 2 separate troubleshooting processes. 2 separate repairs. Unrelated to each other in any manner way shape form or fashion, except that they both happen to be in the same car at the same time.
I understand, I just made a second post to hopefully explain the troubles better and if they’re both related to the starter or not
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Old Aug 6, 2023 | 02:13 PM
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Re: No horn, no headlights, no interior lights, and no door locks

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
As already pointed out in your first thread, you have 2 completely unrelated unconnected problems.

The answers to both problems remains the same.

Your no-crank no-lights no-locks etc. problem could possibly be due to a fusible link failure. When you fix that, or whatever else broke in the chain of wiring that feeds battery to about half of the car, then that half of the car will start working again. Fix that first.

The other problem, about the turn signals, is due to a wiring cross. You have one whether you're willing yet to admit it or not. It of course will return unchanged when you fix the battery feed problem. The brake light switch, fuses, etc. were a waste of time and money, at least in regard to fixing this behavior. You have a problem where the right TS and brake filaments are getting cross-connected, for whatever reason. Posting on the Internet over and over will not make it go away. We out here cannot see into your car to identify what's touching or improperly installed for you, you've got to do the work yourself. You're just going to have to track everything. I'd suggest starting by removing all the bulbs and seeing if it clears up, once you have the fusible link related issue resolved; then re-installing them one at a time, until either it reappears, or you end up with them all back in right and it works like it's supposed to. If it acts weird with all the bulbs out then you have either a farkled socket or "improvements" to the wiring, which you'll have to track down and repair, before starting to put the bulbs back in.

2 separate issues. 2 separate troubleshooting processes. 2 separate repairs. Unrelated to each other in any manner way shape form or fashion, except that they both happen to be in the same car at the same time.
I still need to take out all the bulbs and check the front blinker to see if it still turns on hazards. But my car I realized has both double and single filament bulbs in the Tailights. (Some we’re changed out from previous owner who I assume had bad sockets) so I’m not so sure if maybe since there’s single and double if they’re affecting eachother
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Re: No horn, no headlights, no interior lights, and no door locks

Yeah, if your car's PO made any wiring "improvements", that adds a whole additional level of complication, as far as making it right.

If memory serves, this is a Firebird? In which case, the brake light and TS bulbs are the same, unlike a Camaro where there's red BLs and amber TSs. I think - but don't take my word for it - that there should be all 2-filament bulbs back there, except for the backup lights. But don't trust me on that, consult your FSM.

If there are bad sockets, swap em all out, to the 31xx style. Do the best wiring job you possibly can; solder with rosin flux (electronic, NOT plumbing stuff), heat shrink, tape. No sense in installing new intermittents back there.

And of course, before you can get to work on that, gotta deal with the fusible link or other Big Red Wire problem that's interrupting the batt feed to about half of the car.
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