i want to replace the one i had installed about 6 years ago..not sure it may be a crimestopper ,i know its a real piece of crap, i dont think it was installed right......if i leave the car armed for a week and dont touch it at the end of the week the battery is dead.....even in the summer lemme know what you guys think on alarms

 

I like car alarms for their convience features, use remote start and keyless very frequently.

starter kill is a plus, since old gm steering columns are very easy to "hotwire". Siren is annoying when it accidentally goes off, but can be useful for locating car in a crowded parking lot. Majority of people ignore alarm sirens, perhaps an alarm pager would be a good investment.

The typical alarm install of hiding the control brain under the drivers dash is not very secure. Theives know that circuit city, best buy, and most car stereo shops always install alarm there.

If you want crude but very effective security, consider a mechanical hoodlock with starter/ignition kill located under the hood.

car alarm sources include www.ebay.com and www.autotoys.com

 

a)an alert vehicle owner. b)good dog(s). c)sawed 12 ga.with slugs. aw cmon fu-k those everyday siren alarms anyone who is poaching your car-on his or her list of concerns-your alarm system figures dead last-believe me-have put together a few theft recovery cars all had real nice pain in the *** super special locking door window up whoopwhoop noise makers PUT IN A HIDDEN KILL SWITCH between the ecm and a vital input and you may end up with a busted window or a missing stereo but the car is still gonna be there.

 

if one want's effective security, do something different.

a mechanical hoodlock or a well hidden $1.99 radioshack toggle switch will be more effective than the circuit city $400 top of the line alarm with all the goodies such as window rollups and superloud siren.

another option is http://www.gps2000online.com

neat toy, track your vehicles every movement via online website, remotely start or disable vehicle via online site as well. trick is to hide module well and conceal junction points into vehicles harness.

Many car rental agencies use a similar setup. If you opt for this option, do be aware that all records of your vehicle's movement are admissable as evidence in both civil and criminal court proceedings.

 

good points......i have to agree......any tech articles on what circuit to put kill switches on? i would assume hiding it in the inside of the car would be best.. popping the hood everywhere ya went would tend to get annoying............

 

post us the year the motor the trans so we have something to work with in the assist department

 

91 firebird...305 tbi...700r4 but completely redone by level10 in nj, they do slp trannys...not sure if that matters for this instance tho

 

I am also interested in the kill switch my info is below Thanks

 

No you won't be "popping the hood everywhere ya went", hoodlock is in essence a tamperproof kill switch.

Two parts to mechanical hoodlock:

Electric immobilization - Hoodlock when engaged by the turn of a key, turns on a relay which disables starter, fuel injectors, spark module, etc. If located under locked hood, electric components of kill switch will be very difficult for theif to tamper with.

Physical security of engine compartment - The mechanical hoodlock is in addition to your factory hood latch, not in place of it. Is a big bolt that slides into place, securely retaining the addon bracket on bottom of hood to radiator support area. Control for bolt is located inside passenger compartment of car and connected via armored cable to under hood lock assembly.

These devices have been in use for dozens of years, sometimes called "chapman lock". www.autotoys.com sells them, are under $50 and extremely effective anti-theft devices.

 

you say hoodlock immobilizes car? all i see on that site is cable hoodlocks , i dont see anything where it says immobilizes car ignition or anything like that...am i missing it?

 

also.....if a thief can get your ignition to work without a key..wouldnt he be able to figure out how to pop your hood? call me stupid

 

gm steering column security is not good, column is made of plastic where the lock cylinder mounts. if you've ever seen old recovered theft general motors products, you'd be suprised how little effort thief put into stealing car. VATS and recently transponder have made "hotwiring" much more difficult, but older birds are not equipped with such antitheft features.

Yes the theif will quickly figure out that a key should be inserted into the tubular lock under the dashboard. Only problem is theif does not have the key and it would be very time consuming and noisy task to bypass hardened steel lock.

site has two models to choose from a 5 foot hoodlock or a 7 foot hoodlock.

Install is straightforward, drill a hole through firewall run armored cable from inside passenger compartment to radiator support area. Fasten locking bolt assembly to top of radiator support and fasten lock bracket to bottom of hood.

Note that autotoys is not the only site that carries these items, big manufacturers such as DEI have them as well.

"STORE.AUTOTOYS.COM / ALARMS & SENSORS, REMOTE STARTS, KEYLESS ENTRY & ACCESSORIES / HOODLOCKS / "

"-Item: MECHANICAL HOODLOCK (TYPE I)

-Summary:

Mechanical Cable Pull Hoodlock, the most reliable form of protection, protect your battery and siren from being pulled or cut. 5 foot fits most cars.

-Details:

Flexible armored cable securely locks hood. Built in starter kill circuit prevents unauthorized attempts to start the vehicle. PERFECT FOR JEEP WRANGLERS and other vehicles. Universal, comes with instructions. Protect your hood while your alarm goes off, prevent them from cutting your siren wire.

$35.94

AUTOTOYS.COM low price is $35.94

ourpart: HOODLOCK"

"-Item: MECHANICAL HOODLOCK (TYPE II)

-Summary:

7 foot model. Special order item. Mechanical Cable Pull Hoodlock, the most reliable form of protection, protect your battery and siren from being pulled or cut.


-Details:

Flexible armored cable securely locks hood. Built in starter kill circuit prevents unauthorized attempts to start the vehicle. PERFECT FOR JEEP WRANGLERS and other vehicles. Universal, comes with instructions. Protect your hood while your alarm goes off, prevent them from cutting your siren wire.

AUTOTOYS.COM low price is $41.95

ourpart: HOODLOCK7"

 

sure he could get the ignition to work what if the kill switch is on the dist. hi (ppl\wht) or dist lo (blk\red) wire think the car is starting? how about on a switched 12 volt to ecm how about a constant 12v supply how about inj bank 1 or 2 power,or both? how about the feed rearward to the fuel pump? power to the coil power to the dist., 1 or 2 of the injector control grounds think the would be thief is gonna hang and run a trouble tree diagnostic on the car? not all those and more will keep your car from starting. get it

 

for you guys that want to know which wire to break for the kill switch- can anyone access the schematic(s) for your particular ecm setup-it would be much easier to describe if the diagram was in your hand-any break in the wires above will do it gm has also used #'s over the years to describe circuits and i will put out some #'s now but if the number dosent correspond with what you think it should email me and i will double check for you prior to the cutting and switch install. #340== battery power, #453 dist lo., #430 dist hi, #439 sw.ign, #467,468 injector grounds bank1 and 2 any #450 is grounds, may need to cut more than one to kill or isolate the 1 that will kill usually 3-4 ecm grounds to sort thru- then more easily located-12v feed to inj. bank 1 and 2, power feed to fuel pump, ground out coil neg.-if non smoker this works good-run wire to cig lighter -remove 12v supply from back of lighter-install wire from coil neg. in its place-push in lighter-car no startie-pull out lighter-car startie------lighter in dead lighter out alive works for me, later

 

ooops

 

Switches. Lots of switches. Dont need to be hooked up either, Put like 50 switches in a row on the dashboard and the seat and under it and on the roof and on the car in Misc. places. None of the switches do ANYTHING except for ONE of them enables the Coil / injectors / starter / everything, the thief will never find the right switch in time. good idea huh

 

put one on you-the only position it has=OFF haha
or
49 of them blow the car in place-1 gets power to run it. yeahyeah thats it.

 

lol so it looks like the inside of the space shuttle? yeah sounds good then ill put a girl in the passenger seat thats a switcher also ..........then when go out driving well switch seats......and then............can somone switch this post around?

 

my brother-in-law is rewiring my starter kill option so if the alarm goes off if the person touches anything metal they get a shock off there *** illeagle but it works! also.....razor blades for stereo stuff.. I'd kill someone for touchin my car... call me crazy

 

wasp --did it work?

 

not yet car is in storage till spring just rounding up info from you motorheads