Looking for the nicest set of front spindles I can find.

If the quality is there, I am happy to pay + shipping.

Everything I find used online looks like it was pulled up from the Titanic.

 

I have been saving the originals off my 90 ever since I went with a BBU kit but it may be time to part ways. They are basically perfect. 30k original miles and stored indoors. I have no idea what they are worth. I'll grab some pics.

 

BBU hasn't had spindles to sell with their kits for years.

Amazing you still have your stockers.

No idea what they are worth either since the ones I see listed on ebay seem to be the same pairs I always see.

Keep me posted. I am in no rush. BEAR brakes says they have some front spindles but I am not sure I want to use their rear brake. Would rather use Willwood. That being said, I don't like the front Willwoods. Anyways... I digress.

Not positive on all this, but this is the next purchase for the resomod so trying to get the gears in motion.

 

Hawks Motorsports has brand new reproduction 1LE front spindles for our 3rd gens for $395.00. I'm guessing Hawks had these made to go along with their 1LE front brake kit. Used to be they would modify a set a set of spindles they had on hand or modify a set of spindles the customer sent them if you wanted a kit with the spindles included. Then at a later date Hawks had the 1LE front spindles reproduced to sell by themselves or with the kit if you ordered the kit with the spindles included.

You guys could figure out a fair price of what a pair of crusty used spindles go for and a new set go for and find a price in-between that you both can be happy with.


Hawks - 1982-1992 Camaro/Firebird 1LE Spindle Kit

Hawks - 1982-1992 Camaro/Firebird 1LE Brake Kit

 

I found those Hawks units about a year ago. I have ordered a few things from Hawks over the years.
I brows their catalogue of parts for our cars when killing time. Wondering what I can get from them.

There are other threads on TGO questioning the quality of the castings. Don't remember/am not sure what the bases of questioning the quality was.
All I know is that they are not made to the OEM shape. Specifically they don't have a steering stop, the small ear that protrudes down from the spindle that hits your A-arm.
This is a mechanical steering max limiter that I don't want to go without, and frankly if they missed this, I don't know what else is wrong with them and that prevented me from considering them.

If they corrected this issue, then maybe I would consider that options.
As things stand now, I only see old OEMs as a viable option that I know won't have issues like this.

 

Hawks spindles are designed for the bigger calipers that wont fit with the steering stop.
I did that mod to my original one's to fit the 4th gen brakes. Great upgrade!

 

This doesn't make sense.

I did the mod to my originals back in the day. This is what I did. The steering stop is preserved.

 

I ran C5 calipers in my last build. Sold the entire setup years ago not thinking about the spindles.

That is why I need replacements.

 

You are correct. The steering stop is retained.
It's been years since I did the mod.

Picture is from Big Brake Upgrade where I purchased the brake kit upgrade.

 

Whether or not to retain the steering stop depends which brakes are used. And even if kept, I think they become a caliper mounting point and lose the purpose as a steering stop?

Some brakes also require 1LE spindles so make sure you know your end game before you buy a set of spindles.

Someone like @LAFireboyd probably knows all the in's and out's of this.

 

I don't think the steering stop ever gets incorporated into a caliper mounting point.
At least not for any setup I have ever read about or seen.
There is only one spindle mod I have ever seen, and that is what I shared on post #7.

That mod basically makes the stock standard spindle into a 1LE spindle.

I am considering only two brake setups.
- Wilwood
- Baer

Both require the post #7 mod. Bear offers the spindles as part of their kit. Wilwood does not.
I am not locked in yet on which direction I am going, but I am leaning towards Bear.

I like the size, look, and completeness of the Baer kit, but I don't like the manually operated rear E-brake.
I like the Wilwood electronic rear E-brake option, but I really don't like how small their front caliper kit is for our cars. I asked about using larger calipers that they offer, but they basically make you buy them "a-la kart" and this makes them very expensive and defeat the purpose of going with a big name brand, the ability to have all the details all sorted out by them.

I have been thinking about this all for a very very long time as I work on other sections of my restomod buid.

 

I may have a very nice set to sell soon from my 90, as I will be installing modified spindles for my Baer big brake upgrade that came with new spindles (same as the hawks new ones). Will let you know how progress goes, I am way behind on my build unfortunately.

 

Are you saying that the spindles that come with the Baer brake upgrade ARE the Hawks new 1LE units?
Or that they are modified OEM units?

Really would like to know this as it may sway me decision. I don't want to use spindles without steering stops, and I would rather not fabricate my own if I don't have to.

 

Sorry I shouldn't have said that definitively, I assumed they are probably the same since I cant imagine there is more than 1 company casting these reproductions, however its possible the finishing machining/specs are different. I will go take a look at the new spindles and maybe take some pictures and compare.

For the record I went with the classic series kit https://www.baer.com/products/brake_...parts/4301678R

I definitely want bump stops as well, however I bought the kit regardless as I couldn't tell if the factory stops were retained, if it has bump stops great, if not I planned to add them.

Will let you know what I find when I get out to my shop and unbox

 

For what it's worth, the spindles in the image you linked do have the stops. Those spindles look fantastic.

When I called and asked Baer about the spindles (about a year ago), they told me they have old OEM units on hand. I found that amazing. If true, will be a big benefit for going with them.

 

I just checked and unfortunately they do not have the stops, they look the same as the hawks ones. They are a relatively new offering and I think they reused the picture from another model, as the caliper bracket is different as well. (L shaped).

That being said the kit was 20% off on black friday and was cheaper WITH spindles than the hawks 1LE kit was without them. So I couldn't pass it up.

 

DAMN!

Sorry.... Thanks for taking the time to grab and share that pic. What are your plans for a steering stop?

 

no problem, not sure yet will need to see what it looks like when I get it assembled. likely will just have to fabricate something on the A-arm, I can TIG weld so should be able to figure something out.

 

Hawks is supposed to be coming out with a new spindle based on C7 geometry . Will help with brake options and custom wheel fitment.

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I've herd about that for quite some time now.
Not saying I don't believe it, but I am not holding my breath.
I plan to buy 3 piece wheels so I can get the rim exactly where I want it anyways, so it isn't that inciting for me. Better wheel bearing options would be nice though.

I know my way around my cheap flux core MIG, I guess I will have to figure something out as well...

 

I got several sets of used spindles if your interested text me my number is 6128602513