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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 12:55 PM
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86 tpi to minirammed fastburn questions

Hello to those who might give me some pointers. I've been checking the posts so that i can figure out a lot of stuff in order not to bother most of you. Well, since it seems like a mess load of you guys speak like you are mechanics, i'll ask for help anyways! Right now i have an 86 iroc with the 305 tpi and very shortly i will be swapping in the fastburn385 crate motor. I purchased the LT4 hot cam and TPIS miniram kit for fastburn heads. I also got a 52mm tb, 24lb/hr fuel injectors, new dist. cap/rotor, MSD 6AL w/coil, Edelbrock tes headers, CSI water pump, new fuel pump, and other new parts. I know that i need to swap out the zz4 dist. with my stock one(which has 81k miles on it), and that i will most likely need to drill a hole in the pass side head for a bracket. As far as the computer/chip goes, right now i will be going with a fast chip until i can figure out how to burn my own!-there is a lot of stuff to learn since i am a computer retard and the chip board is a little confusing. Well, i was wondering if there are any major issues i should be concerned with when i go to do this swap. At the same time the engine is pulled the trans will be worked on and i will also be getting a 2400 stall converter. The car came with stock 3.23's so i think i will stick with them for now, as well as the driveshaft, which should be fine. I would like to go with a new 12 bolt soon. As you can tell everything i have listed sounds like it came straight out of a magazine! Well, i just tried to put together a nice setup for my car and i basically went with new parts since i know next to nothing about building/repairing engines! I will have a few friends who are familar with 3rd gens help me out with the swap and any info from you intellectual guys would be greatly appreciated! I may have spent a lot of money on new parts but i am willing on doing the work myself! Any info you are willing to share that would help me do my swap easier would be great. If you read through this long *** post thanks-Bryan

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Old Aug 4, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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Besides tuning issues, do you guys see any major problems in my near future? Please, some help or comments would be nice. thanks for your time
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Old Aug 4, 2002 | 10:26 PM
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
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Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
No one else ventured. I'm no expert in the specifics, but I'd guess you're in for some major assembly and tuning issues.

Any particular reason you're using TES? I'd think with all the other money you're spending, saving a few coins there is a mistake.
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Old Aug 5, 2002 | 08:53 AM
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What's up with Edelbrock? I thought i was getting good headers!
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Old Aug 5, 2002 | 12:40 PM
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Hang around the exhaust forum, you'll hear "SLP 1-3/4" primaries" as the best for performance, especially with a high performance engine like you're talking. After that, Hooker; then Hedman; then TES and Dynomax about neck & neck. Bringing up the rear is Pacesetter (JC Whitney).
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Old Aug 5, 2002 | 06:58 PM
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I was going to go with the stainless steel but decided not too. I have heard nothing but good things about edelbrock and i have been refered to them by a couple of people too. Anyone who has them doesn't talk bad about them when i am around! Oh well, they should be back at my house this week, i sent them out almost two weeks ago to be coated by Jet Hot. Enough about the headers, since they are said and done, any help for my on coming motor swap? Jim over at TPIS said that their corvette came up with 452hp and 435ft/lbs at the fly with the zz9 cam and with my "hot cam" i could expect maybe a little more hp and maybe a little less tq. I am pretty excited, i am sure i will be happy for now! If i had more cash i would definately work the motor a bit instead of dropping it in "crate" form. Well any help would be nice, i guess i will find out for myself, i think i'll learn more that way! thanks for your time-Bryan
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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Anybody who has droped in a new crate motor, please let me know if you had any difficulty. I am starting this weekend and could use some info if needed! Any recomendations, comments, anything?
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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To get to some of your issues. The fastburn chip is set to run what pound injectors? If they're set for 22lb injectors, you will be running rich. You can back it off manually with a FPR, but your powerband at various loads will still be all over the place. I'll be honest, I would not drive the car without having access to something that'll accurately display your A/F at various loadsaccurately. What that means is a wideband O2 sensor (not cheap). Most shops can give you dyno time with a wideband option for like a $100 an hour...It's a good way to go once you get your feet wet with the chip burning process... Even then, that'll be the ONLY place I recommend you go over half throttle till you get some sort of tuning in. The absolute best way for you to go is to have a shop dyno/street tune the car for ya. That way you will not have to spend HOURS trying to unlock the power you may be missing, cuz face it, the stock lambda O2 sensor is absolute CRAP for over 30% throttle...it's a crap shoot. Once again, try not to drive the car too much (if at all) till you get some decent tuning...Don't wanna see you posting a message that you washed out your motor, or burned up the pistons/valves/or rings...And especially don't drive the car if the headers glow red (you're running too much timing or running FATALY LEAN. )

BTW, you will really want a 2800 stall at least with the hotcam in order to reach low12's/high11's. I have a 3500 stall with pretty much a similar setup only the cam is a bit bigger.
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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Also, since you're in NJ, give Cartek a call for tuning. They're masters at this.
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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Thank you for the info. It is reasuring me a little. I was in no way going to go out and "tear up the streets" without getting the car tuned, professionaly. Tuning is going to be a major issue, i know, that is why i would like to learn as much as i can so i can deal with tuning on my own, well almost! The Fast Chip will be made for the 24lb injectors. I know that a purchased chip will not do the trick completely but it will have to do for now. You say that the 2400 stall will not be good enough? It was not purchased yet so i can still go with something else! The guy doing my tranny work recomends no more than a 2400 stall for the street. Keep in mind that this is not a daily driver but it will be driven regularly. Any one in particullar? As you can tell, i am not ASE certified! Any more help would be great. thanks for your time
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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I have spoken to SLP since i am 20 min from Toms River and they will be opening their dyno in mid August so i was thinking of going there. I know it will be expensive! How much do you think a few dyno runs and tuning should cost? I will get other opinions of course. thanks agian
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 10:33 PM
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A 2800 stall with a tranny cooler would be perfect! www.converter.cc
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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 12:15 AM
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Thank you for your time and info Markolc. later
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