i own 2 1992 camaro's, one that has a crate motor in it, and one that i'm fixing up that is only a V-6. i was planning on putting a crate motor in that one too, but decided against it as i'd have to install a new transmission also to handle the extra hp. i have found a great deal on a 1999 SS LS1 engine plus the transmission from it also. the engine comes complete with all belt-driven accessories, wire harness, etc. anybody know if i can put the 99 engine in my 92, and if it's possible, then what problems i might run into putting the engine in a different generation? i really hope it will work because i can get both the engine and tranny for $3700, whereas the crate motor was $4000 by itself. thanks alot yall.

 

There are two links at the top of this list on LS1 swaps, should be enough info there to help you make a decision.

It won't be a bolt-in swap...fuel lines aren't compatible, your fuel pump doesn't make 58psi (at least not for very long), and the engine mounts need changed. No bolt-in exhaust systems exist so there's some fabrication there. Wiring harness won't plug and play.

 

I just bought an LS1/T56 to drop into my 90 Formula, quite a deal at $2250. I will be doing the swap in the fall, as I want to play with my car over the summer, and do a few things to the engine before I drop it in.

There are a few people who have done the swap, and there seem to be no major hassles except the wiring harness, and if you want to keep the A/C. The stock Exhaust Manifolds will have to be retained with the O2 sensor bung relocated, or you can go with a set of Shorties for about $250.

If you have questions, or want to discuss sometime, let me know. I have done a lot of research and have all the resources I think I need in order to get this done. I am happy to share any information I have on it.

And here is a pic of my LS1 after I took it off the trailer.....

 

Not quite sure why no one seems to see my sticky post at the top of this form: https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=157243
It should answer almost all of your questions.

Knoxbonnie: how you get your LS1 engine and tranny so cheap? Where you get it from?

 

just curious but why is it so many want to do this swap?

the newness of it all is over with since you can see them fitted into everything from retro hotrods to mustangs and even mini vans and the price isn't exactly cheap.

you'd have to get the engine and trans for less than 1500 to make it worth the hassles and expensive that you would save with a simple sbc crate engine. i'm assuming you guys have a harness and computer already right? not to mention all the other little extras. to do it right you'll be way above 2-3 times what you paid for it.

not that i'm against it as the engine is quite amazing, just curious why everyone is so ready to shell out the cash. when you can buy alot more power for less.

 

well i can get the engine and tranny from the LS1 for $3700, which i think is about as good a price as you could ever find. i need the tranny cause i'm upgrading from a V-6 and my tranny wouldn't be able to handle the extra power. i'm tryin to get this engine though cause i wanna stay w/ a camaro engine if possible.

 

well down here the average for them is anywhere from 1200-2500. but then you need a computer and harness which will run you anywhere from 1000-1800 for the lot. then you need all the fuel necessities, a good exhaust, air induction, tunning, etc.

by the time your done you could have dropped a 350+ horse crate motor and kept half your equipment making your car faster for less.

i'm certainly not against since it's nice to see the new technology being used. i guess since i see it all the time i just question why everyone is so ready to shell out so much money to do it.

good luck with it.

 

for $3700 it includes:

"engine and transmission from a 1999 Chevrolet Camaro SS. The engine is a LS1 that is rated at 325 h.p. and the transmission is the 4l60e 4 speed automatic. This auction includes the complete engine , transmission , all wiring harness , all computers , and the fuel pump everything needed to transplant this setup in another car. "

the only other thing i'd need is better exhaust, which has been in my plans from the beginning. i still don't know if i'm gonna go through with it, but i think the price is very good for what you get

 

well yes with the harness and computer it isn't "bad" not a deal but decent.

there is alot of fabrication that goes along with it though, be prepared to shell out alot of time and money to make it work "right". although you can skimp out on alot of important things and make it work for the time being.

and they aren't 325 at the wheels; an impressive engine all the same but figure on roughly another 3-4,000 to get it running the way it should.

 

haha yeah i found out about all the custom work i'd have to do (i.e. welding to make the tranny fit, and to relocate the oil pan...also need to buy a $1000 wiring harness to connect the 99 to my 92 cause the one that come w/ it doesn't connect to my car.....buy a s***load of engine brackets, etc.). i've ditched this plan, too much work has to be done to convert a V-6 to a V-8 that has power. sooo, i'm plannin on workin this summer, and (ouch!) sellin my car which should give me roughly $7500-$8000, and i'll try to find a camaro that's already been tricked out w/ engine mods, paint, wheels all that, cause it'll be MUCH cheaper than payin to get that stuff done on my own car. plannin on buyin a lottery ticket too when i feel lucky, cause then money wouldn't be a factor in findin a tricked out camaro...

 

I won it on E-Bay. It had no reserve on it, and I just through that number out there, not really expecting it to win.... but it did!

 

knoxbonnie.....how many miles did it have on it? also, i'm takin from your name and the fact that you're from east tenn. that you're from knoxville....if you are, i'm goin to school at carson-newman over in jefferson city if you know where that is...about a 25 min. drive from knoxville...bein in college, i go out to the UT apartments about every weekend cause we all know what goes on there!!...

 

The reason I am doing it is because it is a VERY cool engine and Trannie that I got a VERY good deal on. To do the swap, I am looking at the Spohn Kit that they are selling through 3rd Gen Resources that includes the Torque Arm, Trannie Bracket, and Motor Mounts for about $500. The wiring harness is not a big deal, the only thing I have to buy is the Speedo convertor for $75. Then, to keep my A/C I have to modify my K-Member, no biggie, just a little torching and welding, nothing too complicated there. Tuning will consist of gathering Data with a friendsEFILive, and then the use of a group purchase and splitting LS1Edit between 4 people to get it down to $300.

So, to drop this in as opposed to another engine/trannie combo, I will have a little over $3500. I am fudging the cost a little because there are ALWAYS BOLTS to buy.... (mutters incoherently about the bolt conspiracy)

Oh, and did I mention that the engine and transmission only weighed 440 lbs according to the cargo manifest? That makes my car about 200 lbs lighter than with the 350 and T5 I currently have in it, produces more power and will get mid-20's on the highway....

 

Yep, you guessed it. The Bonnie comes from my Yahoo ID, I also have a 1994 Bonneville SSEi with the Supercharged V6... nice family cars.

I work at UT, and we regularly have get together of a lot of hotrods in town on Clinton Highway at the K-Mart side parking lot. Come join us! Weather permitting we will be there this Saturday night around 5, and will be meeting up first at 411 Dragway around 1 pm to do a little T&T.

Oh, yes, I am VERY aware of what goes on there.... tea parties.... lots of tea parties....

 

There's actually not a LOT of fabrication to be done for the swap now with the Spohn kit. If you leave off the A/C, all you have to do is cut 2 inches out of your shifter hole in the floor board.

And you are correct, it is only 305 - 310 HP at the wheels for a completely stock 99 LS1. At least that is what I have seen from Dyno runs. Good ram air intake will take it to about 315, add an LS6 intake and your are at about 322. Don't waste your time on the IAT trick or shortie headers. The IAT trick doesn't work for everyone (I even saw a guy lose a littel from it), and shorties don't flow much better than stock manifolds.

 

You don't need to touch the oil pan. It will fit fine.



GM rated the LS1 at the wheels. It is 325hp at the wheels.


All this is explained in my post at the top of this board titles "LS1 Question and Answer"