427, 454, or 502?
427, 454, or 502?
I have recently been given a choice to receive one of these blocks for free? What would the best choice, and waht are some good combinations for the street?
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Comparing the engines you have mentioned. The 502 is the better option! It is a revised block, uses a roller cam, better cooling passages. With that said the other two blocks are the same. Now complete engines are different. Depends on what you are gonna do with it.
But if all else fails and the 427 is a ZL1 motor, don't waste your time it's junk. In fact I'll take it off your hands so I can use it as an anchor.
But if all else fails and the 427 is a ZL1 motor, don't waste your time it's junk. In fact I'll take it off your hands so I can use it as an anchor.
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i am going to have to go with a 427.
remember the 427 and 454 use the same block i believe. but if it is a zl-1 get the damn 427.
how did you score a free block? can you score me a free block?
remember the 427 and 454 use the same block i believe. but if it is a zl-1 get the damn 427.
how did you score a free block? can you score me a free block?
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check witch is the cheapest to build up ...
Its nice to have a free block but.. u have to
buid up the rest.. could cost a lot..
Id go with say the 454, a muncie m-20,
and 3,73 9" or 12 bolt rear.
Its nice to have a free block but.. u have to
buid up the rest.. could cost a lot..
Id go with say the 454, a muncie m-20,
and 3,73 9" or 12 bolt rear.
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My grandfather has two oil trucks from the 70's and he's junking it so I get the engines. I'm gonna keep one to build up and sell the other. How do I tell if its a Zl-1 block, and why r they so bad?
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Originally posted by stupid4901
My grandfather has two oil trucks from the 70's and he's junking it so I get the engines. I'm gonna keep one to build up and sell the other. How do I tell if its a Zl-1 block, and why r they so bad?
My grandfather has two oil trucks from the 70's and he's junking it so I get the engines. I'm gonna keep one to build up and sell the other. How do I tell if its a Zl-1 block, and why r they so bad?
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It's not going to be a ZL1, and these guys were just joking about them being bad. They're pretty awesome setups.
I think Steven from Calgary uses a talldeck block in his thirdgen, no?
I think Steven from Calgary uses a talldeck block in his thirdgen, no?
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Originally posted by stupid4901
My grandfather has two oil trucks from the 70's and he's junking it so I get the engines. I'm gonna keep one to build up and sell the other. How do I tell if its a Zl-1 block, and why r they so bad?
My grandfather has two oil trucks from the 70's and he's junking it so I get the engines. I'm gonna keep one to build up and sell the other. How do I tell if its a Zl-1 block, and why r they so bad?
)So odds are the blocks aren't anything special but "Anything free is worth saving up for!"
Later, Garrett
I didn't realize that the 502 didn't come out till 95. So then the blocks must be 427 or 454. How do i tell the dfference, and since I'm just using the short block, what's a good combo for lots of streetable power.
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get the numbers on the block and have someone on here run them i suppose. that is the only sure way i can think of to tell which is which.
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If you can get the casting numbers off the back of the block you should be able to figure out what it is by looking on this page http://www.mortec.com/bbc.htm
Good Luck, Garrett
Good Luck, Garrett
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Originally posted by stupid4901
My grandfather has two oil trucks from the 70's and he's junking it so I get the engines. I'm gonna keep one to build up and sell the other. How do I tell if its a Zl-1 block, and why r they so bad?
My grandfather has two oil trucks from the 70's and he's junking it so I get the engines. I'm gonna keep one to build up and sell the other. How do I tell if its a Zl-1 block, and why r they so bad?
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The only difference between the 427 and the 454 is the stroke.
The 427's stroke is 3.75"
The 454's stroke is 4.00"
The bores are the same at 4.25" (unless overbored for a rebuild?)
EDIT: I am assuming they are normal big blocks, not tall-deck big blocks.
The 427's stroke is 3.75"
The 454's stroke is 4.00"
The bores are the same at 4.25" (unless overbored for a rebuild?)
EDIT: I am assuming they are normal big blocks, not tall-deck big blocks.
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Tall decks aren't that bad. Pretty much worthless for you if you are on a budget. Raised cam and can fit a monstrous stroke. Again you'll need some cash for headers,intake, a long stroker crank(4.25),good rods, etc. It'll be a monster with some cash thrown at it. You may be able to sell them for a little change and pck up an old L-88. Even the new 454's are monsters. With a 300 shot(shouldn't have a problem with that with the 454's internals it'd be killer).
Hope you got a gas card though!
Hope you got a gas card though!
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I've heard of people building tall deck 427's so there not all that bad just alot of dough to build up. The 366 however is just a waste of time for performance use.
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427 tall decks can be stroked to massive cubes. Normal bbc intakes can be used with adapters.. Make suer they aren't 366 though those are junk. As for it fitting in a 3rdgen? last I looked a normal block was a squeeze and tall decks are physically larger. How attached to windshield wipers are you?
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BTW, how did you score a free block? 
