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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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Cheapa$$ LT1 swap new level of cheapassedness

The VSS problem is solved. There is no substitute for JB weld. I opened up the reluctor on my old-as-dirt lathe, then I trimmed the VSS sensor down to it's bare necessities and made a bracket for it. Then I mounted the whole deal in the back of the transmission. It's not as serviceable but I don't think it has to be.




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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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you're all speechless? You've never seen anything like it huh? This my friends is an example of "aquired item technology" Why buy something special when you can adapt an existing proven part?

Well, anyway, the trans is in, now it's time to hook everything up. I guess hoses and linkages will be first as it's easier to route wires around hoses as opposed to hoses around wires.

Anyone mount their battery in the rear? Any tips?

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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you're all speechless? You've never seen anything like it huh? This my friends is an example of "aquired item technology" Why buy something special when you can adapt an existing proven part?

Well, anyway, the trans is in, now it's time to hook everything up. I gfuess hoses and linkages will be first as it's easier to route wires around hoses as opposed to hoses around wires.

Anyone mount their battery in the rear? Any tips?
Most of us 1. dont have a lathe laying around 2. would rather invest in the part that is made for the application, or 3. have an electrical speedometer anyway and dont need to hack the trans for it to work.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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Speechless is an understatement.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:21 AM
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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Most of us 1. dont have a lathe laying around 2. would rather invest in the part that is made for the application, or 3. have an electrical speedometer anyway and dont need to hack the trans for it to work.
1. Dam shame, they're not that expensive. 2. well, then why not just go buy a car set up the way you want, that's a better investment than a car with a non standard engine. 3. What's the difference between "hack", and "modify"

"most of us" may apply to #1, as for 2 and 3, I'd say "most of us" are always looking to make our money go further.

I'm having a good time and I appreciate the positive feedback, thanks.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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good job.


Z28*****:

i understand you might not have the tools or skill to create such a part, and you need people like us to make them, package them and sell them to you... but thats no excuse for being rude and calling it a hack....

he machined out a gear and a mounting system for the trans.... whats wrong with that? do you realize that the guy you pay $900 to todo the same thing does the EXACT same thing?
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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heh, this reminds me...

i need a lathe.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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That lathe came from a highschool metal shop. I'd like to say the highschool got a better one but someone must have decided it was dangerous. Or maybe they were making too many pot pipes and zip guns with it. Oh well, nothing like a creative mind.

I got it for $600, it never saw production so nothing was worn, everything was either perfect or busted clean off. That lathe and my mig welder were the best money I ever spent.

Did you see the person who made his own big bore throttle body with a brake hone? He puts me to shame.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by SERPENT99

Did you see the person who made his own big bore throttle body with a brake hone? He puts me to shame.

LOL no...

i finally got around to buying a MIG a couple months ago... some of the best money ive spent...
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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I had to dig this one up and post it-

home made 52mm throttle body

This man must have the hands of a surgeon.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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lol. damn, that was intresting... :lala:
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
good job.


Z28*****:

i understand you might not have the tools or skill to create such a part, and you need people like us to make them, package them and sell them to you... but thats no excuse for being rude and calling it a hack....

he machined out a gear and a mounting system for the trans.... whats wrong with that? do you realize that the guy you pay $900 to todo the same thing does the EXACT same thing?

I dont need people like "you" to make them or package them, each swap i've done required neither, its a hack no matter how you look at it the thing is jb welded in there, and I havent paid anyone $900 to do that, the stock 90-92 dash cluster works just fine with the LT1 pcm feeding it.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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Haha, don't mind Z28, I found that he can be a bit **** when it comes to not using correct parts . He knows his stuff, but man, I don't think he understands not everyone has a money tree in thier backyard.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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the question is not if it is a hack, the question is will it perform good and be reliable. The JB weld is not holding it in, it's all screwed together and the JB weld is just encapsulating it. Is there something terrebly wrong with JB weld? Is it a sin?

I used to be **** myself, I'd buy hardware and spend time to make sure all the bolts had the same finish and other nonsense like that, i stopped doing it when I realized I wasn't building a car, i was building a shrine.

Ever since I "evolved" and changed my attitude I've been having a great time. How many here can say they've driven a jet powered vehicle with an afterburner down the dragstrip? Sure, my jet go-kart is slow, and it's a real hack, but the crowd loves it and it onlym cost me a few 100 to build. This is true hot rodding. I'm having a great time and meeting some awesome people.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by SERPENT99
the question is not if it is a hack, the question is will it perform good and be reliable. The JB weld is not holding it in, it's all screwed together and the JB weld is just encapsulating it. Is there something terrebly wrong with JB weld? Is it a sin?

I used to be **** myself, I'd buy hardware and spend time to make sure all the bolts had the same finish and other nonsense like that, i stopped doing it when I realized I wasn't building a car, i was building a shrine.

Ever since I "evolved" and changed my attitude I've been having a great time. How many here can say they've driven a jet powered vehicle with an afterburner down the dragstrip? Sure, my jet go-kart is slow, and it's a real hack, but the crowd loves it and it onlym cost me a few 100 to build. This is true hot rodding. I'm having a great time and meeting some awesome people.
My 2nd reply was mainly to mrdude who seems to think that I or others would have to get someone to make this modification for our cars to work since we're not so skilled, he seems to fail to realize some of us may have other ways around this, like changing to a full 90-92 dash and harness utilizing the stock LT1 pcm output to run the speedometer, and at the same time giving a dash that looks better to most.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Z28*****
My 2nd reply was mainly to mrdude who seems to think that I or others would have to get someone to make this modification for our cars to work since we're not so skilled, he seems to fail to realize some of us may have other ways around this, like changing to a full 90-92 dash and harness utilizing the stock LT1 pcm output to run the speedometer, and at the same time giving a dash that looks better to most.


pfft... on a 90-92 camaro, id probly do what everyone else i know did... spend the $80 on a converter box from dekota digital.

but i like his method too... whatever.. no need to be all bitchy.. its not like its your car anyway.... now before you reply again, ask yourself, is what im abuot to say really going to be useful and help, or am i just defending MY way of doing it (andd possibly the fact that he said i was bitchy)


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jet gokart?? is that one of thoes jets you build out of a used turbo? ive always wondered about how thoes worked...
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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pfft... on a 90-92 camaro, id probly do what everyone else i know did... spend the $80 on a converter box from dekota digital.

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jet gokart?? is that one of thoes jets you build out of a used turbo? ive always wondered about how thoes worked...
Everyone else you know must have used a T5 or 700R4, because the box is NOT needed with a 60E or T56, unless they're using it to split the signal down to feed the cruise module.......
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Z28*****
Everyone else you know must have used a T5 or 700R4, because the box is NOT needed with a 60E or T56, unless they're using it to split the signal down to feed the cruise module.......


duur, look at the pulses per mile, then at the stock 3rdgen ones.
4thgen trans VSS has a higher resolution...alot more pulses per mile..

keep in mind, im talking about running the trans, nothing else.




before you reply, go look it up yourself, theres a billion T56 articals, and its all over the msg board....
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by Z28*****
... unless they're using it to split the signal down to feed the cruise module.......


PS... since the signal going to the cruise is really going to the ECM because the ECM runs the cruise control on later cars, you need to step it down to the stock VSS output anyway.

so either way, you need it... not because of cruise at all
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
PS... since the signal going to the cruise is really going to the ECM because the ECM runs the cruise control on later cars, you need to step it down to the stock VSS output anyway.

so either way, you need it... not because of cruise at all
We are talking about the LT1 swap, NOT a T56 into a tpi or tbi computer car, as i said before the stock LT1 pcm runs the speedometer just fine when using the correct 4th gen transmission with the LT1 pcm, the ONLY time the dak dig box would be needed in that case is if the person is running a/c.
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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I like to do dangerous things and take chances. You see, i'm 44 years old and I recently found out I'm dying. I want to make the most out of my life while I'm still here. My doctor says in about 40-50 years I'll be history. Theis illness I have is slowly turning my hair gray and affecting my memory and vision. Not to mention I fart like a cow and go to the bathroom alot.

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