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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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Car: 1992 Camaro RS, Teal
Engine: 305 TBI, Soon to be 383 HSR
Transmission: Pro-Built 700R4
305 dying, need some consulting on new engine.

I'm going to get a new 383, but I'm not sure what the exact specs should be. I want something between 450 and 500 HP. I've got the transmission, but not the rear, but that can come later. Because my engine is definitely going south.

Block: 87+ 350 4-bolt 1piece rear main seal roller

Crank: forged, not anything excessive, just forged and fairly good quality

Rods: I've hear I don't need forged rods unless I plan on going to a high horsepower application.

Pistons. I want some forged pistons that can make the compression in the 10.x range to run on pump gas.

Bolts: Undecided, you tell me.

Cam: Something around the lines of a Comp Cams XR-282HR (most debated piece) Hydraulic Roller

Heads: I really want to go with Pro Lightning 200 or 210's with a 64cc chamber, but my friends are all giving me **** about Pro Toplines and tell me to get some AFR's or Brodix heads. Literally, just to **** me off, out of the blue they'll say "Pro Topline?" You make the call. If it's something else, let me know.

Rockers, pushrods, and springs: haven't thought about it much. I just want something that I don't have to worry about.

Intake: Holley Stealth Ram, will have to switch ECM and wiring harness because of obvious reasons (read sig)

Well, that's about it, if I forgot something, let me know. Thanks
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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Wow. nobody's interested. I'd figured that I made it easier by listing each part. Guess not.
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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 11:05 AM
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I would look into doing a stroker LT1 setup. Then you can get the LT4 head and cam packege from gmpartsdirect.com This might save you some money because you will not need to go with the stealth ram setup.

What is your budget? We will be glad to help you spend it.
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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Car: 1992 Camaro RS, Teal
Engine: 305 TBI, Soon to be 383 HSR
Transmission: Pro-Built 700R4
budget...

4-5K. but that must include accessories and ignition plus harness and ECM.

So, let's just say 5500 for the wholekit n kaboodle.

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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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I still think it's possible:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2470459174

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2469868796

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2469868660

I am sure you can get a beat LT1 setup much cheaper than these but this gives you a good starting point.
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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From: Lee's Summit, MO, USA
Car: 1992 Camaro RS, Teal
Engine: 305 TBI, Soon to be 383 HSR
Transmission: Pro-Built 700R4
I'd really like to just gen1, and I want an engine that can take abuse.
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
You apparently aren't familiar with LT1's.
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Old Apr 1, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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I am. But for some reason I just want a gen1 engine.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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dont cheap out on your bottom end, you dont want to have to fool with it when 500hp isnt enough and you want to add NOS

run 6" rods as long as your buyin' pistons anyway

bolts: run ARP's another thing not to cheap out on

run full roller rockers, .200 longer push rods, and good springs

ive never heard of proline heads. i know world products and afr work well

cam after your done choosing your other crap call up the manufacturer and see what they recomend for your setup and intended use

world pro. single plane, holley 4150 750cfm

buy the way if you try to run sticks w/ this engine and nothing done the stock rear you will have to tow your car home.
get a girdle at the very least.

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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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There will most likely be a Moser 12 bolt sitting under it sooner or later.
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