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Old May 24, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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"bird is breathing fire!

I just got my 'Bird moving under its own power. I had been adjusting valves so there was some oil under the car. When I went to pull it out, the tires got into the oil...it was like it was on ice. I had to move the car back and forth to try to get momentum up and get it out of the garage. This thing wants to go! I would breathe on the throttle and she would shoot to 6,000 rpm intantly. It left a spray of oil and rubber 20 feet behind me before I finally got it out of the garage!

I hope to get some video tomorrow if the weather holds up. Here is a lousy pic of it, I will get some better ones with another camera. Drool over my 590 pony 'Bird!
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Old May 24, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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Forgot the pic!
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Old May 25, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
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Looks... uhh.... .... Big
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Old May 25, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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Looks like someone already drooled over it!!!
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Old May 25, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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I took some video today, the darn thing is stuck in gravel! I don't have a video card on my pc so I need to find someone who does so I can post it. The thing is idling around 1500 and digs a hole in the ground every time I hit the gas. My fiancee wants to go drag it. I did take some photos with a much better digital camera, I will take a look at them tomorrow. Maybe too many ponies?
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Old May 26, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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I had the same problem backing out of the garage onto gravel..Mines an auto, I just let the Idle pull me around. Idle and brake for staging,,,A little gas is too much!
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Old May 26, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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Here is a couple better pics. Lot of work to do yet, but not bad for a $100 dollar body.
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Old May 26, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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Old May 26, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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Car: 1966 impala , 1998 sebring vert,1978 buick regal turbo, 1991 chevy silverado 3/4ton 4x4 lifted
Engine: 283, 2.5,3.8 turbo 350
Transmission: powerglide,auto overdrive, th350,4L80
looks good but loose that air cleaner man one backfire and your carb is toast ive been there done that those elements in them will melt right down into the carb then you gotta rebuild ahead of ya ....
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Old May 26, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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I just threw that air cleaner on there because I had it and Im not quite sure what I am going to do with the hood yet.
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Old May 26, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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What are the specs on the motor?
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Old May 26, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Car: 1985 Firebird
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Specs? Let's see, where do I start?

Block started life as a '68 327/350. Extensively reworked and modified to accept other custom parts.

Crank is forged stock extensively modified to accept custom parts.

Bearings are my own design - still unpoven as of yet. I only have a few hours on this engine (just tuning and a few passes at the track).

Cam is a variable duration solid roller of my own design and specs.

Pistons are my own design and forging, 12.5:1 compression.

Heads started as 58cc camel humps, but have been filled and reworked to my own specs.

Intake base is my own casting with a weiand plenum.

Carb is a 700 double pumper tricked out.
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Old May 26, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by Lonestar
Specs? Let's see, where do I start?

Block started life as a '68 327/350. Extensively reworked and modified to accept other custom parts.

Crank is forged stock extensively modified to accept custom parts.

Bearings are my own design - still unpoven as of yet. I only have a few hours on this engine (just tuning and a few passes at the track).

Cam is a variable duration solid roller of my own design and specs.

Pistons are my own design and forging, 12.5:1 compression.

Heads started as 58cc camel humps, but have been filled and reworked to my own specs.

Intake base is my own casting with a weiand plenum.

Carb is a 700 double pumper tricked out.
What did it run when you took it out?
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Old May 26, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by Lonestar
and another
Does that hole clear the carb when you get on it ???????
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Old May 26, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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I only got it moving under it's own power last Sunday, so I don't know what it will run yet or if I will have hood clearance issues under load.

The engine was in my s10 which ran a best of 9.89
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Ok now, by the stopwatch (and I did calibrate the speedo and checked it), I am running a 0-60 time of 4.4 s. Giving a 20% error rate, that would be 5.3 s. What do you all think it will run in the 1/4?

I have my own idea based on my experience and knowledge of the car, but I am curious as to your thoughts.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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how about laying out a 0-60' mark and a 1/8 mile mark and use the stop watch?
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Double Hump heads supposed to be 64cc, and not 58cc?

"Bearings are my own design"

If those are the main bearings or rod bearings you are talking about, I really hope that doesn't mean to put grooves in them for extra oiling. That doesn't work, and it reduces the amount of load they can handle.

Actually, I am pretty interested to know what you did with your bearings... do tell!!
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by Air_Adam
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Double Hump heads supposed to be 64cc, and not 58cc?

"Bearings are my own design"

If those are the main bearings or rod bearings you are talking about, I really hope that doesn't mean to put grooves in them for extra oiling. That doesn't work, and it reduces the amount of load they can handle.

Actually, I am pretty interested to know what you did with your bearings... do tell!!
64cc was the norm, there are a rare few 58cc in existence (luckily my family has worked for GM since the 40's).

Bearings are my own creation, not a fabrication on the standard design, I will tell about them if they pan out and when I am awarded the patent rights.
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by Lonestar
64cc was the norm, there are a rare few 58cc in existence (luckily my family has worked for GM since the 40's).

Bearings are my own creation, not a fabrication on the standard design, I will tell about them if they pan out and when I am awarded the patent rights.
Cool (for the heads, and the bearing idea)

Good luck with getting that patent
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