lets say i have a camaro with a 350 TPI and want a new crate engine, since they dont sell crate engines with TPI (i cant find any) will it work if i just remove the carb unit and put the old TPI unit in its place?

 

The bolt pattern style on the heads have to match up. I don't know for sure about the rest.

Though you're gonna find out in a hurry the TPI intake design will choke a decent HP motor without some mods.

Most crates don't offer that great bang for buck if you're replacing a good 350 powerplant. You might consider using an assembled short block instead and mix and match your parts with off the shelf parts such as camshafts, lifters, roller rockers, push rods, heads etc.

 

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/123/...ate-Engine.htm

"This engine is also commonly used in 1987-92 Camaro and Firebird cars with TPI as a replacement for the original 305 or 350 engine."

 

EEEEeeeeeewwwwwwwww.....

Swirl-port heads. Instant 25 HP or so downgrade from a stock L98.

"Commonly used as" does not mean the same as "equal to or better than".

 

five7, why would you recommend that engine when this one:
http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/1578...rip-Engine.htm
is on the same site? (I know, price)

 

Because there wasn't any mention of "Vortec".

If I really wanted Vortec heads and TPI, that's the engine I'd get. Of course, another grand or so is required to get what's needed to produce the advertised power.

 

i need TPI, i cant deal with carb engines....no matter how much more hp they can make. I need an engine that runs on regular gas

what was wrong with the first engine http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/123/...ate-Engine.htm ?


i cant spend more that 2000 for a crate engine....do i have an choices then?

 

Like RB said, the swirl port heads. They're fine for what the factory did, but if you want to lean towards the performance side of life, they're at their limit.

My brother went with this http://www.rebuilt-auto-engines.com/...30105457173.95 . He specified 083 heads, which they accomodated. It doesn't come with tin or rear main seal housing, which wasn't a problem for him. After core fee, shipping, and forklift fee, he had about $1700 in it.

 

Do you absolutely need a crate engine? If you have one built, you dont have to compromise on any of the charactersitics you want, plus it will be cheaper.

 

ok, i didnt know about this option

 

So how does your brother like this motor, does it have good power? How about reliablity?

 

He loves it. He's impressed with the power, but afterall, he started out with a tired LO5. I, on the other hand, am spoiled by my Camaro and '57, and only drove his truck once when the roads were wet and couldn't get any traction, so I'm probably not a good judge. In a 3rd gen, properly set up, I'm sure it would be fine.

Reliability - he put it in last September, drives it daily and regularly on the Interstate (including going from Nebraska to Missouri a couple of weeks ago to tow home a 3rd gen for our other brother), hasn't had any problems with it yet. Not sure how many miles he's put on it yet, but I'm sure well over 5k.

 

i have to have TPI, i need cold start injector...it gets pretty cold during the winter in Indiana. I will always sacrifice horepower for driveablity, why do u think i have a lame *** 130hp toyota celica...

 

The engine I linked is actually a TPI engine. If you have, let's say, an '87-up TPI 350 set-up, that engine would bolt in with absolutely no modification required. To my brother, it was an "upgrade" to his original engine - he first was considering an LO5 replacement type rebuilt. Based on info I'd gleaned from these boards, I looked for a TPI engine on their site, and suggested he go for that instead. He ordered on-line, they called to see what he was up to before they started building, they agreed it would work for his application and that's what he got.

The fact that he has TBI and you have/want TPI is absolutely moot with regard to my recommendation.

Of course, if you want, you could have, let's say, a 350 TPI-type engine built for you for $1700. Or more. If you don't have an engine to be built, and you have it done to your liking by a shop, I doubt it will be less than that.

 

wow....so many options....i didnt know u could get a shop to biuld you an engine. Do you think 2000 is a good budget for an engine in the future (i dont have that kinda money right now)

 

I'd call it a minimum budget amount. The little things will get ya.

 

Lame *** celica heahea
hey
My 89 celica gts has good power plus good gas milage.
25 miles to the gallon avg.
Only mod I did was JDM headers off a Jdm engine
with 2 1/2 cat back. 15 hp gain top end .
Also modded the Air fuel meter clocked the wheel.
added a cold ram air stock 140 now 165 hp.
ONly thing it doesnt have is torque like a v8.
To get going you have to rev the car high but
thats what double overhead cam engines are all about.

It is great car for a daily driver
Its a well made machine.
Stock for stock its more solidly built for its size than a stock camaro.
It doesnt bounce off bumps and go threw you body
like a camaro either. It also handles much better than
a stock Camaro. Also it will beat a V6 camaro

And theres alot of lame *** Camaros out there !
hehehea

 

im guessing you have the 3sge, there is no way u can make 165hp out of that motor just from the mods u listed. Trust me, i know ALL about celicas...

 

stock hp is 135 buts its really 139
I took it to a shop that rebuilds engines in my
area and thats what the rebuilder said.
The headers I have are from a Jdm 3sge hard
to get unless you buy the whole engine.
IF you look on ebay you will see Jdm 3sge engines for sale
and some of them have the headers and there rated 165hp.
They list 20 hp at the top end gain.
I also have 2 1/2 cat back with high flow everthing.
I clocked the afm so it sending more fuel than stock
cold air ram is easy 5-10 horses at top end.
the 3sge can handle over 200 hp its been done .
same bottom end as the all trac.

The car rips at 6500 rpms with no problem.
just like a booster with TVIS system.
people think the car is running a turbo.