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Old Oct 16, 2000 | 09:24 AM
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Who wants a definitive LT1 swap tech article?

I've had SO many e-mail lately and seen a lot of questions on-line that I think someone needs to clear up all of the misinformation flying around out there. This one will take a while since I want to make diagrams for a few things but I think I can do it in a few weeks. What do you all think? I'd get it done sooner but I've been so busy lately that I'm hardly ever home.

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every imaginable bolt-on, ungodly LT1 355, and 12 pounds of intercooled boost on it's way in '01

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black/black 6-spd, optional polished rims, first run 13.056 @ 109.52 stock

"So what DOES the back of a Mustang look like?"
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Old Oct 16, 2000 | 11:38 AM
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Sounds good to me! I've been wanting a LT1 ever since I drove my buddy's '95Z... I felt like I was the king of the road!
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Old Oct 16, 2000 | 01:20 PM
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Well man, sounds good, well, it sounded good, I've almost finished my LT1/6spd swap, so it's a little late, but if you would like any additional pictures of procedures, or a look at it from another person's point of view, let me know and i'll write something up to add to your article if you want.

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Old Oct 16, 2000 | 01:58 PM
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Yes, Brett, make up a better guide an I'll add it to my site then. Eric did a great job with his one, but there's a few things wrong/missing. IE headers, VATS, fuel pump and a full wiring diagram.

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Old Oct 16, 2000 | 03:52 PM
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I agree. But I just finished a '95 LT1 swap into my '92 RS. In the process I added Hedman Hedders, swapped VATS modules, and, of course, changed the fuel pump. But I spliced the two wiring harness together myself instead of sending them out. I can probably put together some wiring diagrams if anyone needs them. just e-mail me and let me know
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Old Oct 16, 2000 | 05:21 PM
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That sounds like a great idea . I have most of mine figured out , I just have three questions. 1) Where did you get your fuel lines and power steering lines made up? 2) How much were they? and can you keep the ac with the stock 4th gen camaro acessory set up?
Thanks for your help, Kory.
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Old Oct 17, 2000 | 12:26 AM
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TexasLt1 - yeah, I'd LOVE to get a basic wiring diagram for the article
fredo92 - any info would be great. I'm already reaching out to a number of guys I know that have done the swap trying to get different points of view and all the different stories.

I got my power steering lines done at a custom hydraulic line/fitting company in my town for maybe $30 total. I never did mount the steering reservoir too well though. The fuel lines I half-assed at first though not really because the tubing I used was rated to 85psi. I'm going to get custom braided lines when I get the motor back in. To do that I think I will need to take the fuel rail to the same hydraulic shop I mentioned and have them cut the tube and install some good pressure fittings to work with whatever size line I decide to go with.

As far as AC goes, I never really dug too deep on that one since I decided to yank the whole AC and heater core out of the car. Since then I've thought it over and now I might want to find a way. There are a couple of things I might try if I decide to reinstall the AC, but I'm not sure what will work yet.

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every imaginable bolt-on, ungodly LT1 355, and 12 pounds of intercooled boost on it's way in '01

2000 C5 Coupe
black/black 6-spd, optional polished rims, first run 13.056 @ 109.52 stock

"So what DOES the back of a Mustang look like?"
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Old Oct 17, 2000 | 07:58 AM
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what price range could one expect to find an LT1

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Old Oct 17, 2000 | 09:57 AM
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Used...I dunno. But Im sure a new crate would cost near $4,000. What would you guys say to do? Go out to junkyards and try to find a used LT1 or get a new crate????
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Old Oct 18, 2000 | 12:07 AM
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Look for the article to get done some time between thanksgiving and christmas. I'm going to try to finish it sooner, but I know I'm heading into a busy set of months.

Price range anywhere from 2000 to 5000 depending on how much the guy's trying to tip you off or whether you're getting a 6-speed. Some people sell 6-speeds as single items for 3000!!!!

Crate motors - I checked this out and through some friends I was able to get a price of almost 2000. But that is for a long-block only and is lacking the intake, throttle body, wiring, sensors, etc. I think you'd be beter off hunting through the junkyards or possibly buying a complete donor car since you will be needing a lot of parts!

For reference - I bought my '94 LT1 complete with wiring, exhaust to cat, radiator, accessories, etc PLUS a 1LE 3rd gen tight ratio steering box all for 2000 out the door. Another example is that I just bought a 2nd LT1 longblock plus intake for 500. It's only the engine, but 500 is a steal for it. Too bad I cracked my original block!


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1991 RS LT1
every imaginable bolt-on, ungodly LT1 355, and 12 pounds of intercooled boost on it's way in '01

2000 C5 Coupe
black/black 6-spd, optional polished rims, first run 13.056 @ 109.52 stock

"So what DOES the back of a Mustang look like?"
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Old Oct 23, 2000 | 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by Brett:
I'm going to try to finish it sooner, but I know I'm heading into a busy set of months.
I just want to have your baby man.



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Old Oct 25, 2000 | 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by Get Blown ?:
Yes, Brett, make up a better guide an I'll add it to my site then. Eric did a great job with his one, but there's a few things wrong/missing. IE headers, VATS, fuel pump and a full wiring diagram.
Missing and wrong huh? Hmmm...alright. I mentioned in there that VATS needs to be removed, and I had it done at TPIS. Headers...well I didn't have any at the time, but I have since added SLP 1 3/4" headers. About a wiring diagram...why would I spend that much of my time? I didn't use or need one. And about the fuel pump...I had TPI...so I didn't have to change mine. Mine is more than capable of handling an LT1.

I'm still going to revamp that one...but I haven't really found the time. I'll letcha know when I do though...cool?

Brett: I don't want to start anything...but
I think someone needs to clear up all of the misinformation flying around out there.
that is one helluva ****y statement! You've previously stated that the way I did my swap and what I wrote in my document was "wrong"...and when I challenged you to tell me what was wrong...you didn't. I also pointed out that I HAVE done the swap...so how could something have been wrong? There isn't a right way...more like there are many ways, and we chose two different ones, in a few areas.

Please don't try to pass it off to people like you are an LT1 swap God. I know you know this guy that does 'em for a living...and personally I think he did your work for you...but that doesn't mean that's the only way.

I'm sorry if I sound hostile, I'm really not...but it's irritating when someone thinks they're the authority, when in fact there are other ways.

I've sent my info out to literally hundreds of people...and have received many follow up e-mails telling me that they've completed it or that it's comming along very well. So what I wrote, obviously is somewhat correct...isn't it?

BTW: Please send me a copy of what you and your friend come up with. I'd like to see how I've misinformed people...and how it should really be done.

Thanks in advance...

Eric

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Old Oct 25, 2000 | 03:13 AM
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Car: '85 Z28
Engine: 396ci LT1
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 4th Gen rear with 4.10s/Eaton posi
Also...
'94 LT1 complete with wiring, exhaust to cat, radiator, accessories, etc PLUS a 1LE 3rd gen tight ratio steering box all for 2000 out the door.
That hurts... I picked up my '94 Vette LT1 complete with harness, ALL accessories, and the exhaust manifolds for $800. I then purchased a '95 dual fan and radiator set-up for $25 in perfect shape and then I got a '95 single cat y-pipe (so I could use the flanges and custom make one) for $15. So I guess it depends on the intelligence of both the buyer and the seller. Oh...BTW...my LT1 had 55k miles on it too.

Also...I picked up my 30k mile '97 T56 complete from input shaft to tail shaft, including throwout fork and bearing for a whopping $900. So make of that what you will...

Any questions...feel free.

Also Brett...'ya gotta love this c*cky comment:
every imaginable bolt-on, ungodly LT1 355
Another statement displaying your "God"-like attitude. Sad... I didn't see NOS hosing and it's other fixtures, nor did I see a blower in the pictures I've seen of your car. So what is it then that consitutes as "every imaginable" bolt-on? You've got me...

Anyways...

Eric
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Old Oct 25, 2000 | 10:36 AM
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Eric that wasn't meant as an insult at all, hope you did not take it as one. I was simplify stating areas that are lacking in info. Some people might not realize a high pressure fuel pump is needed, specially someone with say a TBI car which used a low pressure pump. That's just one example.
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Old Oct 25, 2000 | 01:46 PM
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It's cool man. I didn't take it as an insult...I was just wondering how it lacked. But that's fine.

Ya wanna do something for me? Would you be willing to change that e-mail address on that page? My UND account is no longer in effect. The one that I use now is: eric_anderson99@hotmail.com I'd greatly appreciate it! Thanks...

Eric
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Old Oct 25, 2000 | 03:51 PM
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So is this tech article comming around? Ive got a V6 thats gonna end its life in about a year or so. Need a good LT1 tech article!!!

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Old Oct 25, 2000 | 04:51 PM
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ok, I'll probably update the email address later on tonight or tomorrow.
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Old Oct 25, 2000 | 08:45 PM
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Yeah that would make a GREAT tech article...

on the other foot- brett, whats your AIM name? mine if fb305svs - im me some time, i live in southbury and berlin in CT...

Steve
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Old Oct 26, 2000 | 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by Get Blown ?:
ok, I'll probably update the email address later on tonight or tomorrow.
Thanks a lot man!

Eric

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Old Oct 26, 2000 | 10:59 AM
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Just updated it and added two mini-updates in the FAQ.
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Old Oct 27, 2000 | 09:13 AM
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85z - That statement wasn't applied directly to you but to the DOZENS of people out there on this board and others that start spouting info on the swap when they haven't done it. You and I know what is and what is not involved, but I've seen people tell others that they can swap an LT1 in and put their TPI on it with no mods!!! It's stuff like that that I was referring to because I get a lot of e-mails from people interested in the swap who haven't really researched it yet and have already been fed misinformation. That is why I am putting together as much information as possible in one article so that those interested can sit down and get a firm handle on what's required before they go spend their money and get burned because they listened to someone online who might not even know what an LT1 IS.

And, with your permission, I'd love to use sections of your article on Get Blown ?'s page in parts of the article since there are a few different things we've done.

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every imaginable bolt-on, ungodly LT1 355, and 12 pounds of intercooled boost on it's way in '01

2000 C5 Coupe
black/black 6-spd, optional polished rims, first run 13.056 @ 109.52 stock

"So what DOES the back of a Mustang look like?"
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Old Oct 27, 2000 | 09:47 AM
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Where do you guys find all these cheap motors ???? I am starting my motor swap and the cheapest shortblock i've found is $750 for a rebuit stock 350. Again I ask Where?
I NEED A GOOD INEXPENSIVE MOTOR.
THANX.

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Old Oct 30, 2000 | 03:15 AM
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Brett: Oh...

Yeah I guess you can use what you want on that page. I'm gonna try and revamp that doc. at some point here in the near future. I'll let it be known, once I get it done.

Eric
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Old Nov 4, 2000 | 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ryan83:
Where do you guys find all these cheap motors ???? I am starting my motor swap and the cheapest shortblock i've found is $750 for a rebuit stock 350. Again I ask Where?
I NEED A GOOD INEXPENSIVE MOTOR.
THANX.

www.ebaymotors.com i see alot of lt1s on there some pretty cheap
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