articwhiteZ

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I have been out of the hot rod seen for about 7 years now..

and want to get back into it.. the old hot rod had a Linginfelter 383 sbc

was looking at a 420 back a few years ago...

starting with a new BowTie block.. say 400 maby alumn ($5.000)
whats out there and running Good now CID wise..

thanks

Jeff

TraviZ

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warhawk or lsx block can be done up to 427ci quite easy..

AlkyIROC

LS engines are not a SBC. They share nothing with the old SBC design.

Atilla the Fun

The 434 remains a strong choice for the old school guys. I still build 2 or 3 every year for my die-hard customers. 4.155" bore, 4" stroke, 6" rods and JE pistons. Top with AFR, or Dart Pro1 Platinum, heads. Add an Edelbrock Super Victor, whether going carb or EFI. Finally, still lose to the guys running the LS7 427 with just cam and headers. Plus you're still stuck with a distributor and a single ignition coil. To make power to 7200 rpm, the LS7 just needs pushrods, while you'll need a solid roller cam, COMP Endure-X lifters, and dual springs, plus aftermarket rockers, all in addition to good pushrods. Come on, bro, step into the modern age.

TraviZ

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I know, I just didnt know he was being technical.

articwhiteZ

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will be looking for a short block to start with. and using all my other parts on it..the old eng was a Lingenfelter 838 (480 490 Hp) 480 ft lbs tork
this was With out the NOS.
dont looK at the Dust.. car ran fantastic for 7/8 years broke in 02 and just slid her in the shack out back..and let her get dusty this is 7 years of sitting

articwhiteZ

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tranny and rear end was all brand new and was on the way to the track when it broke...some thing in the eng went Clunk..that was it.. will not turn over even By hand.. looked under the rocker covers every thing is there.. dropped them back on and walked away..

articwhiteZ

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makes me sick to think of all the cleaning ill have to do.. this was a show and go car for years back in the 1993 to 98 block.

i hope all the upper parts are ok.. heads. cam

every this was just gone over.. before the last brake..

it's got a big mech roller cam i just love..
gear drive..if you name the part it's on it.. at the time i did the eng it was over $10.000 just for that..thats just the eng not car tranny rear end NOS..just the eng.. im sick thinking it's just sitting there.. this way..

Camarslow

Whether you wanna stay with the gen1 design or step up to the new lsx platform, 427 and 434's can be built on a standard deck height block, and 454 to 500+ cubic inches is possible with a tall deck block.

Shadow Z

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From what I've been seeing, all the REAL power is being made with big blocks. 502's, 572's, 632's, NRE has a 3,000 horsepower 705 project.

If only a simple guy like me had the cash to run a 3,000 horse big block in a Third Gen..

ty_rich

there making 454 sbc's now.....

articwhiteZ

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went with a 11.8.1 427 sbc (could have Gone Bigger)same price
Mech Roller Cam
H beam rods
Dart Block
Forged Crank
Forged Pistons
Good set Alum Head's
super ram
1000Cfm Tb
36lb intrs
but now i can up the NOS to 190HP Hit for a bit longer...lol
never needed it under 3rd gear..

wanted to Keep this Upgrade Under $10.000...
and need to stop spending..NOW!

nexed time ill just send it off to fast time's and say
super size me.. 672 bbc!

t-top havoc

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Envy has set in!!

355tpipickup

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so hows this build goin? Has the car been all nice and cleaned up?

MitchellDeMoor

Wow, man can you say dream car. I wish I had the money to make my car half what your is. And to the guy who said lsx's are not SBC he is full of ****. The LS engines are the GenIII Small Blocks.

articwhiteZ

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every thing is paid for..winter is setting in.. and getting cold out side.
the eng is still in FL. and i still don't have my old one out yet..

as soon as i get the old eng out.(383). ill start to get the eng bay set up for the new 427sbc... the last month i have been side tracked with getting the car back how it was.. after all it's been sitting for the last 7 years..

the last time i talked to Wheeler. it seemed like they had not started on it.
and thats fine i have all winter to get it done..by spring anyway..
they told me 5 weeks..i gave them 6..looks like it will be longer..im good with that. i dont even have my old one out yet..

i have spent way to much on things i did not need.
seats (did not need them)
more slicks (did need a new set)
chasi parts (up grade yes..)
end oil coolers (always wanted a nascar cooler)
braded lines (for the above..got them for a good price)
just crap i did not need!

as none of this stuff would have got it to run..

but on a side note: the car still looks and smells new!
thats the orgnl paint also..shines and looks wet in real life! (yes the back is open)..this photo was taken before all the back end was taken off and cleand.. tail lights buffed out. shut down swith painted to match car.. will take a few new updated photos.. maby in the AM.

NEW SEATS INSTALLED.. why.. i wanted to keep the orgnl seats new...thats what i tell my self.
see how the right side of the 5 point slids up and sits inside the jockybox..like it was made for it

also had to install a new battery..$150..that last one was new..just set for 7 years and went bad..how do you spell utama..uptama.. that speny POS!

im want to drain the tank and get started on cleaning the fuel lines.. nexed nice day.. ill hook the charger up and knock the lines open. and drain the tank. flush it and the rails a few times and get set to pull the top end (intake) off.. and get it set to Pull.. then start the clean up under the Hood.. that way i can send the injtrs off to be cleand.

MitchellDeMoor

Sorry for my retardation but is that a Lingenfelter Camaro or just a Lingenfelter engine. Is it from a Lingenfelter Corvette or did you buy it ftom Lingenfelter?

articwhiteZ

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it's a 1992 Lingenfelter Camaro Stage 5 car.
Back in 93/94 about a year after i picked up the car from my dealer.
took it into Lingenfelter. and had them do the Install / tune.

what started of to be a Stage 3 ended as a Stage 5 with a 383

the car had less then 1200 miles on it before the stage 5 mods.
all i had to do for almost 9 years was oil/plugs/ and check lash every year..
and install new tires and brakes. from time to time.. aside from ripping apart rear ends.


over the years it got a few more things.. till the day it stopped
summer of 03. close to 7 years ago..

articwhiteZ

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been running solid roller cams for a long time.
roller lifters (always just used the standard mech rollers)
roller rockers (moly)
and good moly push rods (moly)
(all the cam and parts are always comp cams for me)
with dual springs and dampr (no biggy)
titanum parts on top
with EFI

just wanted to plug and play.
but have been looking at the new stuff.
for the same price could go with 590bbc EFI
with no less the 500fpt from 1800rpm to 6500rpm
drop a few more bucks and it would be all alum also..
and close to plug and play. with a new prom.
but thats Just me...

355tpipickup

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what are you goin to do with the old 383? Are you goin to tear it down and see what happened to it then part it out? what heads are on the 383? Im still tryin to save and get some new heads.....maybe one day! Nice lookin car by the way, ill be back to look for more pics!

articwhiteZ

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the old 383.. take it down see what went wrong...if it's only 3 or 400 to fix.. like turn the crank resize rods.. put back together.. ill do that and sell it.. obo bucks with fluid damp and sfi crt flexplate. it only had like 8000 miles on it in the 10 years it was in the car..
alway had fresh oil..9qt's at a time..

what went wrong?

IM TAKING BETS AT THIS TIME:

was just crusing at 35/40 mph about 2500rpm and it just stop?
just like you turned it off... no bang..clunk or anything..just stopped!


im thinking a main grabbed the crank..
as i took the valvcovers off and every thing is in place..
no leaks.. oil is Clean..

the upgrades just the week before this was a new billt distributor.
Tanny&9" convrtr and 9"rear..

could the gear drive let Go?
could the cam let Go?
Distributor let Go?

no death sownds?

a week or 2 before the last upgrades.. the rear end blew up at 100mph and was like a big blinder till i got the car stopped.. it took out the sprag in the tranny and i also found a crack in the converter.. but dont know it it was from this last blow up.(rear end).. B&M sent me another one free..over nite 9".(they will always have my biss). this fix was like $5000.. saw a sale on a few other parts and tossed them in as well.. ..test tune..was on my way to the track..and Curplunk!
slid it in the shack and left it for 7 years.. till one day the bug bit me..about 6 weeks ago.

this fix is at $10.000 as it sits now..still working on it..
but i think $3000 of it is stuff i do/did not NEED!
coolers and seats and tires. and books.chasi parts
just crap!!

MitchellDeMoor

Keep us updated would be interested to know what happened to the 383. Could it have been the wrong cam gear on the distributer?

articwhiteZ

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the distributer was made for my make and year of car.
takes a reg gear. it did not have to be bronz. just a plane cast gear.
thats how comp cams makes the new mech roller cams now also.
and was not in long enof even if it was..

whan i get the eng out.. i will be taking photos of everything as i take it down... to see what it was.. and what all is broke.