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427 SB, can I get one brand new?

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Old Sep 3, 2001 | 09:44 AM
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427 SB, can I get one brand new?

I just would like to be different. I don't want a 350 or a 383 or a 400 so I'd like to go with a 427. Even to make the job tougher, it's going into an original 91 Firebird (V6). Doesn't Merlin make a new block? Thanks.
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Old Sep 3, 2001 | 11:46 AM
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Yes they do, you can also get a complete turnkey 427 engine, and it doesn't make it any tougher then a 305 would. Everything will bolt-up the same....
As for handling the added power, I don't know...?!
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Old Sep 3, 2001 | 02:37 PM
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Don't worry, this will be very well planned out. I'm glad to hear 427 small blocks are still made. Just one question, are all small blocks whether it be a 305, 327, 350, 383, 400, or 427 the same on the outside? I was told that physically they are the same on the outside, just the bores and strokes are different.
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Old Sep 3, 2001 | 06:57 PM
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You realize you'll have $25K to $30K in the car before you're done. Just a reality check.
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Old Sep 4, 2001 | 11:56 AM
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Yes, they are the same on the outside, and bolt-ons among the small blocks are interchangeble...
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Old Sep 5, 2001 | 12:11 AM
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Try looking HERE.
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Old Sep 5, 2001 | 07:38 PM
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QwkTrip, I do realize what I'm trying to do and I honestly believe your price is conservative. Hell, just the suspension and brakes are gonna cost about $10,000. Money is not a problem. I'm building this car as my dream car, the way I envision it.
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Old Sep 5, 2001 | 09:49 PM
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Okay then....

The engine block you're talking about are manufactured by World Castings. Their website is http://www.worldcastings.com . Frankly, if you want a big inch small block and you don't mind spending some money I would get a new Olds Rocket 350 block which can be bored and stroked to rediculous numbers and use the Chevy 18 degree heads. That would be a rockin' motor. Easy 600+ Hp naturually aspirated and still streetable.

Another option is to wait for the release of the upcoming Banks twin turbo kit and put is on a factory based Chevy 350 small block. The turbo would quite down the exhaust and make it a serious sleeper.... heck just a serious car period.
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Old Sep 5, 2001 | 10:34 PM
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Just read in Super Chevy today that the WC 427 is soon to get fuel injection That'd be a nice setup.

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Old Sep 6, 2001 | 10:15 PM
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Yea, I saw that Gale Banks turbo setup in a previous post. Looks freakin' awesome! I really really would like to have one like that in my car. You think a 350 would work better under that than a 427? It would be more streetable?
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Old Sep 7, 2001 | 01:37 PM
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Engine displacement is less of a factor for a turbocharged street driven V8. Basically, it can make more power with a 350 then you'll even be able to use. Going 427 and with turbos is pointless.
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Old Sep 7, 2001 | 04:37 PM
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Okay, I follow what you're saying. I'm basically just thinking about engine choices that are out there. I want to do something you wouldn't see everyday. As nice as a 427 SB sounds, I think I'm pretty much set on a ZZ4 shortblock and going from there. I'd like to stick with TBI cause it looks so cool. And, I recently found out that turbocity no longer carries the dual throttle body setup. I'll have to make my own now.

https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/000853.html

That's what I want my engine to look like.
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Old Sep 8, 2001 | 12:53 AM
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You do have to know, Gale Banks has had a 500hp, 600hp, and 700hp twin turbo kits for almost twenty years know. Remember he took a 600hp unit in a 83 or 84 TA over 200 mph in Car and Driver.

Yes I still have the issue.

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Old Sep 8, 2001 | 11:03 AM
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I'm only looking for the 500HP, lol. I wouldn't want to drive a car with any more than that, lol. Not yet anyways.
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