500 hp, all motor
500 hp, all motor
Hi guys, I'm new to the board and just recently bought a thirdgen. I am wondering what BB motor options I have that will fit (13's just aren't doing it for me). Is this possible, or should I stick with the small block. I have about $5,500 to work with and am looking for about 500hp before a shot. Thanks.
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*daily driver* '88 Firebird
-TPI 350, cat-back, cold air, 125 shot, 13.64@102
*sleeper* '70 Nova
-Motown 427 (race prepped by Bill Mitchell), mini ram, 2 stage N2O, 3100lbs, runs 8.40's all day, street legal (to a cops untrained eye).
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*daily driver* '88 Firebird
-TPI 350, cat-back, cold air, 125 shot, 13.64@102
*sleeper* '70 Nova
-Motown 427 (race prepped by Bill Mitchell), mini ram, 2 stage N2O, 3100lbs, runs 8.40's all day, street legal (to a cops untrained eye).
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From: Monticello, IN USA
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: 350
Transmission: T-5 (gonna buy the farm)
$5500 for 500hp. That would not be a problem at all, depending on what parts you already have. On a 350 SBC, it would be easy. I have a collection at home of tested engine build sheets for different hp levels. I don't have exact part numbers in front of me, but it runs along the lines of:
Roller cam-$500 and lifters
AFR heads-$1300
Intake- $250
Carb- $500
Rbld. kit-$600 incld. pistons
Mchn. wrk-$800 blk, swapping pstns,
Rods- $500
Crank- $400
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$4850--This of coarse depends on if you want forged parts. Rods, Pistons, and crank may or may not be as much. This also leaves $650 for misc. parts. If you are into searching for the best cost, and time is not a big issue, these can be had for cheaper.
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Joshua Johnston
1991 Z-28
350, T-5, K&N, Ported Vortec heads, Edelbrock RPM, Holley 750 D.P., HEI, 11.07:1 CR, Comp Cams Roller-.510"/.520"-282*/288* dur., Shorty Headers, Dual 2.5 Exhaust, Dynomax Bullet Mufflers, T&R Motorsports custom air intake, Bald tires
Roller cam-$500 and lifters
AFR heads-$1300
Intake- $250
Carb- $500
Rbld. kit-$600 incld. pistons
Mchn. wrk-$800 blk, swapping pstns,
Rods- $500
Crank- $400
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$4850--This of coarse depends on if you want forged parts. Rods, Pistons, and crank may or may not be as much. This also leaves $650 for misc. parts. If you are into searching for the best cost, and time is not a big issue, these can be had for cheaper.
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Joshua Johnston
1991 Z-28
350, T-5, K&N, Ported Vortec heads, Edelbrock RPM, Holley 750 D.P., HEI, 11.07:1 CR, Comp Cams Roller-.510"/.520"-282*/288* dur., Shorty Headers, Dual 2.5 Exhaust, Dynomax Bullet Mufflers, T&R Motorsports custom air intake, Bald tires
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From: Mpls, MN USA
Car: 88 Camaro
Engine: 427 BBC
Transmission: T400
Let's see, BB = Big block then simple math is
BB + $5500 = 500hp no problem. Just depends on if you want it streetable and of course what you define as streetable.
I make 500hp/520lbft with my 427bbc on 87 octane, 9:1 compression, factory iron heads, dual plane intake, vac carb etc.... and it's very streetable. The only time the motor gets touched is to set the valve lash once a year. In fact, for $5500, my motor just might be for sale
The specs are on my page.
With a very mild 2400 converter, it just went 7.76 @ 94 mph (1/8 mile) with 1.72 60ft.
PS Where do you run that Nova? I don't recall seeing any 8.4x Novas around this area.
Miles
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88 427 Camaro
12.18 @ 113mph 1.75 60ft
Currently installing 3.73's into my 9 bolt (YES, it is a 9 bolt & YES they are 3.73's, not 3.70. I currently have 4.10 gear sets and new series 3 carriers in stock for 9 bolts
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www.koolmeister.com
BB + $5500 = 500hp no problem. Just depends on if you want it streetable and of course what you define as streetable.
I make 500hp/520lbft with my 427bbc on 87 octane, 9:1 compression, factory iron heads, dual plane intake, vac carb etc.... and it's very streetable. The only time the motor gets touched is to set the valve lash once a year. In fact, for $5500, my motor just might be for sale
The specs are on my page.With a very mild 2400 converter, it just went 7.76 @ 94 mph (1/8 mile) with 1.72 60ft.
PS Where do you run that Nova? I don't recall seeing any 8.4x Novas around this area.
Miles
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88 427 Camaro
12.18 @ 113mph 1.75 60ft
Currently installing 3.73's into my 9 bolt (YES, it is a 9 bolt & YES they are 3.73's, not 3.70. I currently have 4.10 gear sets and new series 3 carriers in stock for 9 bolts
)www.koolmeister.com
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Joined: Mar 2001
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From: Monticello, IN USA
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: 350
Transmission: T-5 (gonna buy the farm)
I love the look of a BB in a 3gen. I don't know that I would like the extra hassle. Was it hard to fit that 427 in that car? Just curious.
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Joshua Johnston
1991 Z-28
350, T-5, K&N, Ported Vortec heads, Edelbrock RPM, Holley 750 D.P., HEI, 11.07:1 CR, Comp Cams Roller-.510"/.520"-282*/288* dur., Shorty Headers, Dual 2.5 Exhaust, Dynomax Bullet Mufflers, T&R Motorsports custom air intake, Bald tires
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Joshua Johnston
1991 Z-28
350, T-5, K&N, Ported Vortec heads, Edelbrock RPM, Holley 750 D.P., HEI, 11.07:1 CR, Comp Cams Roller-.510"/.520"-282*/288* dur., Shorty Headers, Dual 2.5 Exhaust, Dynomax Bullet Mufflers, T&R Motorsports custom air intake, Bald tires
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Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,346
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From: Monticello, IN USA
Car: 1991 Z-28
Engine: 350
Transmission: T-5 (gonna buy the farm)
Hey, hey, hey. He didn't mention suspension mods with the $5500!!!
. Well, if you need suspension mods with that, you just cut down on the propensity of the 500hp, $5500 motor.
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Joshua Johnston
1991 Z-28
350, T-5, K&N, Ported Vortec heads, Edelbrock RPM, Holley 750 D.P., HEI, 11.07:1 CR, Comp Cams Roller-.510"/.520"-282*/288* dur., Shorty Headers, Dual 2.5 Exhaust, Dynomax Bullet Mufflers, T&R Motorsports custom air intake, Bald tires
. Well, if you need suspension mods with that, you just cut down on the propensity of the 500hp, $5500 motor.------------------
Joshua Johnston
1991 Z-28
350, T-5, K&N, Ported Vortec heads, Edelbrock RPM, Holley 750 D.P., HEI, 11.07:1 CR, Comp Cams Roller-.510"/.520"-282*/288* dur., Shorty Headers, Dual 2.5 Exhaust, Dynomax Bullet Mufflers, T&R Motorsports custom air intake, Bald tires
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From: Mpls, MN USA
Car: 88 Camaro
Engine: 427 BBC
Transmission: T400
Hey Qwktrp,
Have you run that thing yet? dyno or track?
Did you build it yourself or buy it that way? Do you have a page with the specs on it?
Like stated above, he only asked about 500hp with $5500, nothing about drivetrain/chassis/suspension work. And with a big block, it's no problem!
Have you run that thing yet? dyno or track?
Did you build it yourself or buy it that way? Do you have a page with the specs on it?
Like stated above, he only asked about 500hp with $5500, nothing about drivetrain/chassis/suspension work. And with a big block, it's no problem!
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