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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

so heres the deal, Im looking to swap out the 305tpi in my 1991 z28. found a 1989 covette with a 350tpi thats being partted out. what all do i need from the vette to make this work or will it? or can I just bolt in the long block and reuse my currant tpi set up? please let me kow what im getting into! thanks in advance. ps, I live in Californa an need this to be smog legal./...

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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:22 AM
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You can bolt in the long block with your TPI stuff, but you will need the 350 injectors and a tune to do it (can't use the '89 "chip" - it's MAF).

If you get the entire TPI set-up including harness, sensors, and ECM, you can bolt that into your car (after changing the oil pan and pump). It won't technically be emissions legal, though.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:28 AM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

I just need it to pass the test on paper... no one needs to know whats under the hood but me. yes id be gettin entire TPI set-up including harness, sensors, and ECM and trans.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:30 AM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

im 99% sure vette trans wont bolt into our f bodys, or is that only C5 vettes?
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 12:33 AM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

i just negotiated the trans into the deal, might as well get a free tranny out of the deal...
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 01:14 AM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

To keep the "new" tranny, if you have a 700R4 & the new one is is 700R4, just swap the tailhousings out. If they are the same length, you can even just reuse your driveshaft.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 02:52 AM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

Originally Posted by 90 camaro cj
im 99% sure vette trans wont bolt into our f bodys, or is that only C5 vettes?
All C4 Vette trans bolt up perfect ; same bolt pattern / same 153 tooth flexplate
C5 has trans as part of diff assembly
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 02:56 AM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

Originally Posted by BlackenedBird
if you have a 700R4 & the new one is is 700R4, just swap the tailhousings out.
Vette T700 output shaft ( and tailshaft housing ) are shorter (3/4") so DS yoke may not engage splines enough if longer F-Body tailshaft housing fitted



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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 03:06 AM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

Originally Posted by five7kid
You can bolt in the long block with your TPI stuff, but you will need the 350 injectors and a tune to do it (can't use the '89 "chip" - it's MAF).
In reality you can use the whole Vette TPI setup and only need to swap over the plenum so you have provision to mount the MAP sensor used on the 90 -92 cars.
(Could even remote mount the MAP sensor( like on trucks ) in which case Vette engine could go straight in without taking the intake off

Need a 350 SD memcal (chip ) to replace the 305 one in your existing computer and a 350 SD knock sensor to go with the 350 injectors mentioned above.
No rewiring / computer change needed

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The Vette '165 ECM will have VATS enabled so you would have to get a custom chip with VATS disabled anyway if you converted to the Vette MAF setup using the Vette wiring and computer
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

I want this to be as easy as possible, iv decited to slap the vett long block under my current tpi setup, so all i need then is bigger injectors, 350 knock sensor and a 1991 camaro 350ci/auto chip? thanks to all of you for your advice thus far!
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 06:08 PM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

OK, just found out this 350 engine is actually from a 1985 corvette with TPI not a 1989 like i thought, is thier any diffrence? Im still planning on taking the long block from the vette and just bolting all my TPI stuff on it, will I have an issue or are all L98 long blocks pretty much the same, I know that 85 did have a TPI on it, a two piece rear main seal, forged pistons and the valve covers are not centerbolt. i just ordered a cam and headders, please let me know if i should return them befor they get installed... Thanks
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 02:37 AM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

Originally Posted by play4keeps
found out this 350 engine is from a 1985 corvette
i just ordered a cam and headers,
please let me know if i should return them befor they get installed... Thanks
What cam did you buy?
85 has flat tappet cam ; not a roller cam like installed in the '89 and 91
What headers ?
89 Vette had alum heads with a D port exhaust
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 09:04 AM
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Re: TPI 305 Camaro to a TPI 350 corvette HELP

Originally Posted by vetteoz
What cam did you buy?
85 has flat tappet cam ; not a roller cam like installed in the '89 and 91
What headers ?
89 Vette had alum heads with a D port exhaust
The heads are Iron on the engine i have.

Here is the cam thats on order:
BrandCOMP CamsManufacturer's Part Number12-388-4Part TypeCamshaftsProduct LineCOMP Cams Computer-Controlled CamshaftsSummit Racing Part NumberCCA-12-388-4UPC36584520399Cam StyleHydraulic flat tappetBasic Operating RPM Range1,000-5,000Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift206Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift212Duration at 050 inch Lift206 int./212 exh.Advertised Intake Duration252Advertised Exhaust Duration260Advertised Duration252 int./260 exh.Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio0.425 in.Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio0.440 in.Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio0.425 int./0.440 exh.Lobe Separation (degrees)112


Here is the Headders:
Edelbrock Tubular Exhaust Systems (TES) Headers
IROC, Z-28, T/A, Formula89-925.0/5.7L T.P.I. , dual-catA#68762

Thanks for your help, please let me know if this stuff is useable or if thier is a better setup. and if I will have problems putting this in my camaro.
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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It's all usable.

The '85 ECM wasn't so good, but I believe you can plug in an '86-'88 ECM with no problems. It is MAF like the '89, but has a 9th "cold start" injector that was deleted in '89 (and speed density started in '90).
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