I am looking to put a set of headers on my car, and found a edelbrock tes kit that will bolt right up. Has anyone ever used these? Are they any good? If not what should I use?
-thanks

 

They are fantastic, the only ones that are better are the SLP set, but they are over $500. They look, sound and work great, the headers are the best mod I have done so far!

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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission with 2.77:1 Rear End

Current Mods: Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Hooker Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Performance Resource Chip with 160* Thermostat, Accel Ignition Components, K&N Filters, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.

Best ET : 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)

 

I have had my edlebrock TES headers for over 1 1/2 years. they work great. the only problem is they arent coated and they are brownish/white.. but they have a great sound and flow.

RED82TA5.7L

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1982 Pontiac Trans Am
Cross-Fire Injected 5.7l V8
Eldebrock Headers, 3" Hooker Cat-Back, 2 nice tips with duel outlet on each side.
Mods: 1.6 Proform Roller Rockers, electric fan.

Future mods: X-Ram( Aftermarket Cross-Fire Injection Manifold that proves to have as much power as TPI www.x-ram.com )
Cross-Fire Injection after market chip that says that it will proform like 90's injections.. http://www.turbocity.com/CorvetteCro...ECMUpgrade.htm

 

I've heard that if you drive in the salt and snow, that the TES headers rot out very quick, has anyone else had this problem?

 

i havent had a problem with salt yet, i live about 10 miles from the ocean and i havent seen anything wrong. but then again, ive only had them for about 3 months.

daniel

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86 camaro cpe(dont laugh)has 92z28 body kit with GTS covers, new red paint and a killer stereo. 2 amps, 8 speakers, disc changer, custom install with subs coming by the end of the summer. sawpped (or in the process of) 305lg4 for brand new 350. TES headers, flowmaster cat back, performer manifold, TCI converter, jet chip, kn with dual snorkel cleaner. and she still passed the sniffer!

"Cal Poly SLO is the shi#"

 

I'm going to get the 1 5/8 when I get the money (I cant wait), but I think I'm going to get them coated.

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90 IROC 5.7l (L98)
ram air, K&N's, air foil,Flows

 

Please see the flaming folder thread in the Aftermarket Products Forum entitled "SLP Headers" for a comparison. My recommendation is to get the SLP's.

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1991 Camaro Z28
5.7L 5-Speed (originally 305)
13.25 @ 107.18 MPH
Southern California
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kevin91Z:
[B]My recommendation is to get the SLP's.


Kevin, don't get offended, but why does it seem like every question regarding exhaust has you blasting the TES and pumping up the SLP's? If I didn't know any better I'd swear you worked for SLP. I appreciate your oppinion but tone it down a little. I have the TES and I love 'em. There can't be that much of a difference in flow for you to be putting that much effort into denouncing the Edelbrocks.

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'91 GTA with TPI 350 & T-Tops. Just a few mods, if you want to find out just line up next to me at a stoplight!

 

Hey, I know a good product when I see it. Edelbrock headers might be cheaper, but you get what you pay for in quality. I'm just warning other thirdgenners about what I feel is an inferior product, compared to SLP's headers. But lets not get into that here. If your only concern is price, then get a set of Flowtech $100 headers.

 

Kevin's not the only one who thinks Edlebrock headers are ****, Jesters said it countless times in the exhaust forum too. Do a search, both have listed countless problems/defects with TES headers.

 

lol.. that's funny, since Jester is running $100 Flowtech headers.

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/000177.html


Not my words. Personally I won't buy anything from Edlebrock, but their intake manifolds. I know enough about Edlebrocks "quality" products to know better.

 

I got Edelbrock's headers and they are JUST FINE. Don't let anyone tell you they are **** because they are NOT. I felt a real SOTP improvement, they were VERY easy to install, and the still look new after two months of having them on the car. SLPS MAYBE better but they're two times the price, not to mention you HAVE to buy their installation kit with them. Some people dont have money trees growing in their backyard!

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92 Z28 L98 350
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Ported and polished heads, ported stock TPI base, ported plenum, Comp Cams XR270HR-10 cam (lift .495/.502 duration 218/224 lobe separation 110), Edelbrock TES headers, LT4 valve springs, Crane AFPR, Flowmaster catback with LT1 style tips, MSD coil & wires...

Best ET 13.5@105 mph

"Take that auto, drop it in first, hold the brakes, stomp the gas and grin from ear to ear! :-)

[This message has been edited by Blade (edited November 10, 2000).]

 

I would like to have SLP's also but I can't afford them so Fu(k you rich b@stards.

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84 Camaro ZZ4 with HOT cam. 1.88 60' (12.98 @ 105MPH E.T.)
Other Mods: You name it and I have probably changed it.

91 Firebird 5.0L TBI

ASE Certified CHEVY DEALER Auto Tech
LIVE AND DIE BY THE ALMIGHTY BOWTIE!

 

Sorry, but this is a sore subject with me because I have had real problems with my TES. Small tubes, poor fit, corrosion, poor service, and crappy welded air tubes. Just wish my money went toward SLP's.

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84 Camaro ZZ4 with HOT cam. 1.88 60' (12.98 @ 105MPH E.T.)
Other Mods: You name it and I have probably changed it.

91 Firebird 5.0L TBI

ASE Certified CHEVY DEALER Auto Tech
LIVE AND DIE BY THE ALMIGHTY BOWTIE!

 

I too have Edelbrock TES and I am very happy with them. I had mine coated and they still look like shiny and brand new after 1 1/2 hears and 30,000 miles of all weather driving.

I REALLY like the fact that the coating makes the temperatures very cool under the hood. I can physically touch my headers within 10-15 minutes after a long drive. In fact, at that point, they are actually cooler to the touch than my runners on my TPI. That is how effective the coating is.

On the HP restriction issue, it isn't that much EVEN on a 400 HP motor. In the July 2000 issue of Chevy High Performance, they did a build up a Goodwrench 350 from its baseline of 239 HP to 416 (normally aspirated) and 471 (abnormally asprirated).

They initially installed 1 5/8" headers as one of their first mods. When they were at 402HP, they finally swapped to 1 3/4" headers. The net gain, 7HP.

I guarantee that if they had installed the 1 3/4" before 350HP, there probably would not have been any gain and possibly lost HP if the HP was below 300.

Bigger is not always better, especially when you are under 400HP. But if you PLAN on building over 400HP, then buying the 1 3/4" is wiser, unless you are rich enough to afford buying another set.

 

I have the edelbrocks and so does my buddy, his are rusting pretty bad after about a year of all season driving, Mine are holding up fine, but they never see salt. If you are going to get the edlbrocks, paint them and the y pipe with a high het paint to ensure long life.........just my thoughts

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91 RS W/carbed 350, Vortec heads, performer rpm, Comp cams Xtreme energy 280 grind. BFG Drag radials. 3.42 posi,Corvette servoed 700r4, ****ty stock converter
13.24@104

 

I agree I have the Edelbrocks on my car and Was very happy with the performance, fit, and finish. I agree with Glenn bigger isnt always better. I have read more than one dyno test, one even showed a set of the 1.5 primaries betting out the 1 5/8 and 1 3/4 set. The larger sets can make more power above 5000. But the loss thru out the rest of the range wasnt worth it. This was a 400+ horse 350 and a 450 horse 406.

One thing I have found from modifying cars and visting this board over the years. There is more than one combination of parts to go fast. Everytime someone has good luck with there combo. They think they have reinvented the wheel or something.

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Black 90 IROC, L98, A4, 323 gear. SuperRamed 406 in the works!

 

I have the Edelbrock TES Headers on my car and I love them. I had them Jet-coated and so far no compliants from me. Here is a pic of them on my engine.



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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ4 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-Accel Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html

[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited November 22, 2000).]

 

Eric...that coating looks sweet! IM seriously thinking of having mine done. While I have the motor out, how much did jethot charge for the coating?

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Black 90 IROC, L98, A4, 323 gear. SuperRamed 406 in the works!

 

The expense difference between the Edelbrock headers and the SLP is the fact that the SLP headers are made from stainless steel which is a more costly material than plain steel. I have an Edelbrock system on my firebird and enjoy everything about them except the odd exhaust tone they make around 3grand.
As far as rusting,,we've all experienced the black "high heat" coating put on from the factory as being a joke,, and is mainly on to prevent rust while they sit around waiting to be sold (or so it was explained to me) so I invested in a bottle of Cermakrome (under $20) and a hobby airbrush from wal-mart and coated mine and baked them in the oven. They've yet to rust so far.
Bare steel does not stand a chance against the elements tho which is the only advantage to the SLP headers,, by the time a set of Edelbrock headers are jet hot coated,, the extra money paid for it will have almost caught the price of the SLP's. I don't see SLP as being a "superior" header over Edelbrock tho seeing as how they both seem (looking at SLP header pic.) to use a donut gasket to connect the Y-pipes and you can't really make the design too different from anyone else,,,there's just not room to make them better. The Camaro Performance handbook even says the 1¾ are sorta of a PITA to install. It's all a matter of opinion,, sorry mine was so long

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