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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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i was wondering if anybody has used borla, cause i saw it and it looks nice but was wondering how it sounded? also what's better flowmaster or borla?
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 05:36 PM
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Borla vs Flowmasters

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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 05:48 PM
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Borla is a great exhaust. You will def have a unique sound because alot of people do not wanna spend that much money on a cat back.
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 08:23 PM
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I loved my Borla it was so sweet! I got it of off a crashed 01 SS for $150 and traded it for a set of drag wheels since I just switched to long tubes. Yeah get the borla!!
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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Re: Borla exhaust

Originally posted by TallWhiteGuy
i was wondering if anybody has used borla, cause i saw it and it looks nice but was wondering how it sounded? also what's better flowmaster or borla?

I think Borla is a good exhaust system. Performs great. Only thing its overpriced and the tips suck *****. I have a sound clip..i'll upload them later on.
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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Borla sounds good, but it's a little expensive for me (poor college student) I have hooker on mine and love it, I only know of 1 other car around here that has it, and they have the cat-back system, I'm running true duals. If you really want to be different, you could go with Edelbrock, not many people around have that.
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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Borla vs Flowmasters

To me everyone has flowmasters and they sound the same on every v-8,so Borla is the way to go if you want a different unique sound that alot of people like and think sounds good. I have Borla on my 91 Z and alot of people like it and my g/f has flowmasters on her Iroc and it sounds like every v-8 with flows.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 01:32 PM
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I can't remember exactly which one it is....either Borla or MAC, but the sound clip I heard on a 3rd gen made it sound like an import. .....if you go to their site they should have a sound clip link there.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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mark sheilds has borlas on his IROC, it sounds good
I'm thinking of going that route too.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 06:35 PM
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Borla sounds great. More of a professional sound than the blowmasters. In my opinion they sound only okay at idle. Flowmasters sound better at light throttle but during decell and WOT the borla just sounds to unique. I only paid $100 for my used system and $80 to have it installed and welded up by Mufflex. The only part of my exhaust that isn't stainless is the cat converter and the flanges.
An even more unique sound is my 350ho motor with SLP tri-y headers and the borla with it's adjustable plates.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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Mark has hooker. The hooker is a great system for the money, and it doesn't have that same old flowmaster sound everyone else has. It gives your car some lope even if it doesn't have much on it. I have the peanut came and i've got some lopeyness to it now, lol.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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mark sheilds has borlas on his IROC, it sounds good
I'm thinking of going that route too.
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WTF???????? that's just plain wrong to say I have an over priced pile of crap.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by BikertrashDude
mark sheilds has borlas on his IROC, it sounds good
I'm thinking of going that route too.
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I was in shock after reading that. I know I haven't been on the site for 2 months, but that scared the hell out of me. It's like a wide known fact that Mark A Shields is just another word for Hooker Cat-Back.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Gunny Highway
I was in shock after reading that. I know I haven't been on the site for 2 months, but that scared the hell out of me. It's like a wide known fact that Mark A Shields is just another word for Hooker Cat-Back.
lol, I'm about to do duals, but not sure if I can go with 2 aero chambers, they may be too thick
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
WTF???????? that's just plain wrong to say I have an over priced pile of crap.
Hmmm.....
I paid less than you and my price includes welding installation from Mufflex. I wouldn't call Borla a pile of crap just because you couldn't find a deal on it. The fact is that Borla is the best cat-back for our cars but yes, it's also the most expensive. If I had to go with something else it would have been the SLP exhaust. Unlike most of you here, I plan on keeping my car as a daily driver in winter and rains for a good ~lifetime. I don't want to think about my exhaust rusting, just my floor boards
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
WTF???????? that's just plain wrong to say I have an over priced pile of crap.
always thought you had borlas...
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by BikertrashDude
always thought you had borlas...

are you serious?
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 08:29 PM
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yea

I don't know what I was thinking
you don't have your specs in your sig any more
and you do have the dual snorkels on each of your exaust pipes
and I know you didn't have flows on.....
just me being, and feeling very stupid right now......
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by JPrevost
The fact is that Borla is the best cat-back for our cars but yes, it's also the most expensive.


Do you have any proof of this you can show me?


Originally posted by Hg
flowmaster sound everyone else has
Im glad to hear people say everyone has flowmasters. They arent the cheapest, but they are more popular then most exhausts, hmmmm I wonder why...

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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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Do you have any proof of this you can show me?




Im glad to hear people say everyone has flowmasters. They arent the cheapest, but they are more popular then most exhausts, hmmmm I wonder why...
B/C they became so popular with Mustangs at first, that every 18yr old wanted them, and since they do sound bad azz on Stangs, it just spread, that's my theory.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 09:34 PM
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Flowmaster has the best marketing. How can you forget seeing that poster with the drag car up on its back wheels with the dual flowmaster system on it. I love that poster.
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 10:44 PM
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Want something different like Borla? Look into Spintech! -89IRO
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by IROCThe5.7L
Do you have any proof of this you can show me?
Im glad to hear people say everyone has flowmasters. They arent the cheapest, but they are more popular then most exhausts, hmmmm I wonder why...
You left yourself open for what's about to come.....
First off if you compare Flowmaster to Borla or SLP you won't find much if any of a performance difference but you will notice that your flowbastard will rust. That alone is proof that Borla is a better cat-back for our cars. BTW, I'm giving you the fact that there isn't a difference in power when in reality it's been proven that chamber mufflers don't produce like straight through designs.
Next point to address is your comment about how everybody has flowmasters. You think there is a reason for it and I'm sure there is but I don't think it's because of price and I know it's not because of performance. Yes better than stock no doubt about it.
Let me just end with this little tid bit of info. The f-body hasn't outsold mustangs for a while now, "hmmmm I wonder why.... "....now do you think it's because of performance or sound. Nobody can say the new stangs sound like crap but run em against an LS1 hehehe.
My point is that Borla isn't crap. It's got a stainless lifetime, straight through design, 3" and a 3" STAINLESS cutout with STAINLESS plates making it one of the best cat-back systems for our cars. Yeah they're ****ing expensive, this doesn't make them crap nore does it make it overpriced. Compare a jet-hot coated flowmaster cat-back with a 3" cut-out in the same location and we're not talking your normal $ expensive....it gets up there. Don't forget that the Borla has fugly exhaust tips, it's a shame they did that .
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 11:09 PM
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I never said Borla was crap. Is borla the only stainless catback made for our cars?

"you will notice that your flowbastard will rust. That alone is proof that Borla is a better cat-back for our cars."

Sorry, some people look for sound when buying an exhaust, not just because its stainless.



And Mark, if they sounded like *** on fbodys, people wouldnt run them just because they sound good on mustangs. Esp with thirdgens. They have been around long enough where people would know what exhausts sound good and bad on them.


And all I meant was that there are other exhausts cheaper then flowmaster, such as Hooker, yet there is more flowmasters out there.

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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 11:16 PM
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lol, I'm about to do duals, but not sure if I can go with 2 aero chambers, they may be too thick
I'm running duals on my Z28 and have 2 aerochambers (4.75" thick plus 1" heat shield) The ground clerance isn't too bad, but you have to watch out for large bumps or holes in the road. It's all worth it though when you're at WOT...
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by kfoley
I'm running duals on my Z28 and have 2 aerochambers (4.75" thick plus 1" heat shield) The ground clerance isn't too bad, but you have to watch out for large bumps or holes in the road. It's all worth it though when you're at WOT...
thanks for the heads up, you dont have any pics of your routing do you?

where are the mufflers on the car?
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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 11:48 PM
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I don't have any pics right now, I need to get them developed, but when I do I'll post a thread (should be pretty soon). The mufflers are located under the front floorpan. That's where I could get the most clearance, and then they exit before the wheels. I probably have about 4" of ground clerance or so. I'll work on getting it posted for you, I just gotta find the right roll of film (it sucks not having a digital camera).
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Originally posted by kfoley
I don't have any pics right now, I need to get them developed, but when I do I'll post a thread (should be pretty soon). The mufflers are located under the front floorpan. That's where I could get the most clearance, and then they exit before the wheels. I probably have about 4" of ground clerance or so. I'll work on getting it posted for you, I just gotta find the right roll of film (it sucks not having a digital camera).
You have a sound clip?
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I had the Borla system on my car for a short while. For what it costs - I was dissapointed. The system designed for the 82'-92' cars required cutting part of my old lead pipe off and welding it to the borla system to make a complete bolt on cat back. I hated the tips too, the design of them made the car back fire when I lifted off of the gas pedal after a WOT romp. Would I buy it again? No. I couldn't find a single system that I thought I would be happy with... so I built my own true dual system w/ oval piping for ground clearance. While it may not be everyone's cup of tea, I like it and that is all that matters.
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You have a sound clip?
Yes, but they're currently on my mp3 player that I used to record them with. I'll get them off there and try to post some up.
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I had the borla, if anyone remembers me from the last car meet in north point state park, you may have heard my car. The sound is great but the cops weren't great. So right now i've sold my borla and now have a 3-1/2" Mufflex Exhaust with a spintech muffler. This exhaust is slightly quieter but very deep.
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derfrank- I'm getting my spintech muffler (3" inlet, dual 2.5" outlets) put in on my '89 IROC-Z on Friday. Have you heard this muffler? If it is similar to what you have, what can I expect as far as sound and performance? Everybody has flowcrapper sound clips to listen to but I guess spintech isn't as known. I'm also putting on a high-flow cat. -keeping my origional 3" pipe. Let me know, I can't wait till friday! -89IRO
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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I have the SLP stainless steel cat back on mine, great sound and performance but has the dual tips on the drivers side, I guess you either love it or hate it. Pricy at $399
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derfrank- I'm getting my spintech muffler (3" inlet, dual 2.5" outlets) put in on my '89 IROC-Z on Friday. Have you heard this muffler? If it is similar to what you have, what can I expect as far as sound and performance? Everybody has flowcrapper sound clips to listen to but I guess spintech isn't as known. I'm also putting on a high-flow cat. -keeping my origional 3" pipe. Let me know, I can't wait till friday! -89IRO
All I can say is that you won't regret it, the sound is totally unique and nothing like the borla or flowmaster. You won't regret it.
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