I just love the sound from those engines, and ive seen a lot of people putting sbc's in kitcar ferrari's and others. What exhaust system etc.. would yeild that sound. or even yet, what cam,engine combo etc.. has that sound.

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Double overhead cams, chain driven, 4 valves per cylinder, 12 cylinders, equal length tubular exhaust, 6 two-barrel downdraft Weber carbs.

Good luck! If you get a SBC to sound like one lemme know the recipe too, because nothing sounds like a Ferrari V-12

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Have you ever heard a 60-80 Ferrari in PERSON? It sounds alot different than in the movies and TV shows. It sounds LOUD AS HELL! But it doesn't sound like a V12. You can get that sound out of a SBC or any V8 for that matter. All you need is a rough idle cam, headers, no cat, and I don't think the old ones had a muffler but I can't remember. I doubt it tho. But personally I like the 360's whine. Oooooooh, its just saying "Drive me hard!". Nothing like an Italian car.

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Yes, I have heard dozens and dozens of actual Ferrari V-12's and no way in hell does any SBC sound like one!

 

Anyone have Speedvision? If so, tune in tonight at 7PM for: Ferrari, Victory by Design.

You wanna hear some killer engines?

 

So ya've heard dozens of Ferraris in person? Ok, well uh yea you can make a SBC sound like one. And if you have been around so many like you say you should know that you can. Oh and plus, he might not be talking about making it sound like a V12 Ferrari. He might be talking about a V8 one, HA! Anyways, I do agree with you to a point. Every engine has its own sound but you CAN make it sound like a Ferrari. Atleast at idle, I doubt it at WOT.

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Yeah, I'm an old fart and have been around dozens of Ferraris since the 60's, OK?

Now, ya got me there, maybe he was thinking of a V-8 Ferrari. There have been 4 cyl, 6 cyl, V-8 and V-12 Ferrari's. Inline, V, and boxer.

But, whenever anyone mentions Ferrari, I just think of a V12. To me, there is no other Ferrari that even matters.

 

LOL, I know what you mean and I doubt that he was talking about the V8s. I was just bringing them up to prove that you CAN make it sound like one. But I think you are right about the V12s...nothing sounds like them. But hey! Come on there are some NICE V8 Ferraris! Look at the F40. Thats my fav!

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Maybe its just me, but I think that all engines possess their own unique sound...Ford and Chevy small blocks have totally different tones and I personally think that Ferraris have one of the most unique, unmatched sounds in the world!

Oh yeah, and Tom, just figured I'd tell ya that you've got the sweetest Formula I've seen in a while and hopefully one day I wont have to be spendin my money on stupid things like heater cores an Ill be able to buy my ROH ZS wheels! They look great on our Maui blue cars

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[This message has been edited by dudelovett (edited January 14, 2001).]

 

True dual exhaust with a X-pipe (not a H-pipe!), and keep the tubing small.

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Shoot, I don't know man. I'm tryin to find out how to make a 3rd gen sound like a 85-present v8 stang. If people can put pipes on a jap cruiser bike and make it sound like a harley I don't see why someone can't make a set of pipes to make ours sound as mean as stangs.

 

Ain't no way a V8 is going to have that V12 sound. It has to do with the acoustical harmonics that only a V12 can put out.

Maybe you can find a 1970's V12 Jaguar in a wrecking yard somewhere, overhaul the engine and tranny and drop it in. A project fit for a true masochist!

 

Maybe make it like one of those new Ferrari Station Wagons they are coming out with. Wonder what those things have in them (or is it a rumor)?

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89, u might have not heard a really good sounding Third Gen, with a really good exhaust setup. I have heard both, and the Third Gen's have a better, more muscular sound, while the other, has a sound like an V6 with no converter and its volume turned way up!!

If u want something that really sounds good, get a car with a 350, or swap engines to whatever size u want, mod it, do a good exhaust setup, and shake the other guys doors when u go by!!

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[This message has been edited by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (edited February 05, 2001).]

 

ZtwentyGr8...and other "purists"...I had an 89 IROC w/L98. Dynomax 3" to 2 2 1/2" system w/cat. Sounded ok. Kinda like a stock vette, but a little louder. Not real ballsy though. Then I made the mistake of switching to Flowmaster Force 2 system w/gutted cat. I make butt noise that sounded better than that. Had an 86 w/Flowmaster 80 series, yee ha, LOL. I've heard every cat back some with cams some stock, some with headers, some with manifolds. Except for SLP Loudmouth, Magnaflow, and these Raven mufflers I heard of in a post. So I can't comment on those three. The rest sounded like variations of a truck exhaust. The best exhaust I ever heard on a 3rd gen was a custom shorty dual system I describe in another current thread on the exhaust board. It was mean but still no match for my buddies exhaust on his cobra. I don't mean to burst anyones bubble. If you like yours or a certain one than I'm sincerely happy for you because that is what is important. As for me, I haven't found a system that sounds as good. I'm not gonna go out and buy a Stang just because I think it sounds better. Tit for tat the F-body will get the nod because it's most importantly better looking and naturally handles much better. I am not a GM purist. I believe in natural selection. What ever looks, sounds, performs the best gets my praise. I happen to like 88-92 IROC's & Z's and 98-01 Firehawks/WS6's the best of the true pony cars. We all like 3rd gens alot or we wouldn't be on this board. But there are some of us with our opinions that believe sound wise stangs usually sound better. That doesn't mean we think everyone should sell their f-body. So please do not think I am being biased or blasphemous. I also appreciate non biased aswers. I wasn't flaming by any means. Dwain

 

89, u might like the way your friends car sounds, but if u heard the Third Gens of the guys I know, I'm sure u wouldn't be saying u want your car to sound like his.

Also, u shouldn't have put that muffler, and the Flowmaster F2 system on an L98. Those are not the best sounding exhausts, and many guys on here know that. U had an 80 Series on an 86, that means it wasn't a 350, and the 80 Series makes the its best sound with a 350, not a 305 or V6. There are many posts on these things.

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[This message has been edited by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (edited January 27, 2001).]

 

Some miscellaneous ramblings(with apologies to Peter Egan et al,...)

Of the few older V-12 Ferrari's I've had the pleasure of being around, I always noticed the distintive "ripping canvas" sound seemed to come from the engine compartment more than the exhaust. This always led me to believe that: that wonderful sound was caused by the simultaneous opening of 12 carburetor butterflies. Was I mistaken? I suppose you could make a SBC sound similiar by utilizing a quartet of Weber 2-barrels. Don't know why you'd want to, but to each thier own.

Personally, the malevolent rumble emanating from my present exhaust is often reason enough to get in the car and go to work(oh, I guess a regular paycheck figures into the equation a bit too). I like the looks the exhaust draws also. Not all out neck-snappers, just sideways glances recognizing a perceived threat(don't look at him,... maybe he won't notice me).

 

headers, no cat, straight through 2.5" single exaust, Magnaflow or borla or some kind of straight through muffer, 283 or some other small cid high RPM chevy.

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If u want your car to sound good, why would u put that muffler on there instead of a 80 Series or 40 Series?? That Flowmaster that u mentioned is made to give more flow, with not much sound. If u want sound, go for the 1's I mentioned or a Flowmaster AT exhaust system.


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[This message has been edited by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (edited February 05, 2001).]

 

sorry everybody, i started this post then never checked it agian.

anyway, yes i want a high reving sbc. that sounds like an older ferrari that i heard, you guessed it, ON SPEED VISION!!

I was just sitting here one night watching speed vision like i do everynight. and i saw that european anouncer thats on almost every speed vision show showing off some older rare production ferraris.

i like the x pipe with smaller exhaust idea. where would i start the small exhaust, like free flowing 2" from the headers back or something. or 3" into 2" at the back seats then out? no muffler.

 

think this would do it? with slight modification.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...980217&r=0&t=0

 

LoL, he started the bid for a brand new Ferrari engine at .99 cents.

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eric, its not the entire engine, just the muffler.

 

I remember when the first Indy 400 NASCAR was run that the commentators were commenting on the sound of the #4 car. They said it sounded more like an indy car the a stock car. I not sure how they did it but I think they might have been using an x-pipe or they may have joined cyclinders from opposite sides of the engine into common collectors.

Mabe someone else remembers this as well.

Steve

 

what would joining cylinders do like that?

 

snfl,

He's referring to 180° headers. The basic idea is to join the primary tube from the out of sequence cylinder(all V-8's have an out of sequence cylinder on each bank) to the collector on the opposite bank. This evenly spaces the exhaust pulses, and creates the most effective scavenging.

The downside is: the pipes crossing over each other underneath the engine severely reduce ground clearance thus it is not very practical for a roadgoing vehicle. You could cross the pipes above the engine, but then practicality would limit this to a mid- or rear-engine application.

[This message has been edited by 88IROCs (edited February 12, 2001).]

 

sorry to seem dumb, but. scavenging? what is that. sorry, i have no idea what that is. I do understand the out of sequence cylinder.

 

This is my underderstanding.

Scavenging Effect: this is achieved by keeping the exhaust gases as hot as possible. The hotter the gas, the quicker it will flow out of the system.

This is a simplified explanation of which others will no doubt expound upon.


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Actually, scavenging is using exhaust pulses to move exhaust gases out as quickly as possible.

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