Hey guys, um its a question that has been nagging me sometime, but i dont know the answer.

The time will come when i will get headers. Probably Hooker ceramic coated, but im a bit hesitant about the whole AIR deal.

Well my question is do i need it? Im mean due the current stock manifolds have some current AIR setup already?

My car is in the sig, any other info u need tell me.

Please i wanna clear up this annoying issue, thanks.

P.S. I do know that there is a tube that goes into the catalytic converter, isnt that some sort of AIR setup.

 

AIR is for emissions. If your state has emissions testing, AIR would be a good idea to have. I will be getting Hooker 2055's ceramic coated from JetHot with AIR, you might wanna check those out. They are $520 shipped from JetHot, and they coat the headers and y-pipe inside and out.

 

No we dont have emmisions here in Michigan as far as i know. Would there be any downside from not A.I.R., like engine problems or whatever.

What benefits other than being cheaper would there be to not having A.I.R.

Can i get a link to those headers u picked, thanks.

 

I'm having the same issue....I'm looking at getting a set of hedman shorties...already coated from JEGS...only $258....but..I was wondering about the air tubes. I'm in Indiana...and there are no emission laws....both of my cat's are cut off....is that all the air tubes are for? just your cat (s)??

 

Indiana has emissions laws, my car was purchased from Indiana and I have the last emissions paper from Indiana.

AIR tubes also go into your manifolds.

As for a link to the headers, JetHot does not have them listed on their website, www.jet-hot.com but you can email them about them.

 

Um...I think we do have emission laws..ther are not just reinforced.......I've had both of my cats taken off....and there are no emmission checks here........

 

i am curious as well, are there any benefits to have or not have the AIR system? Will it increase decrease performance or throw any codes?

 

A.I.R. is purely an emissions reduction concern. If you have visual inspection, you will need to have both A.I.R. to the manifolds and to the cat. If you only have sniffer, A.I.R. to the cat will help lower emissions. No codes will be set if A.I.R. is removed.

It takes some power to run the pump, but the amount is less than what it takes to turn underinflated tires.

 

Ok....if I get a set of headers....with NO air fittings.....can I still keep my smog pump hooked up?

 

Yes, but why would you want to.

 

..I was just wondering. So....the airtubes just go to your cats then?

 

You have two ways to go:
1) Buy headers with AIR fittings and KEEP ALL the emission controls.
2) Buy headers without the AIR fittings and REMOVE ALL the emission controls.
No middle ground. However; more states will be enforcing emission laws/per Federal EPA.

 

I'll probably just get a set of Edelbrok TES headers....they are $349.00 from JEGS...that's really not to bad...they are ceramic coated...and have the air tubes...just in case I need them in the future.

 

Im probably gonna go with a high flow cat anyway, so might as well get A.I.R headers too.

 

I don't have emissions testing here in FL but I went with AIR headers just in case I ever moved elsewhere and I needed them. I would get 'em with AIR, just to be safe.

And get 'em coated if you can afford it. Otherwise the paint will burn off and it makes 'em look ugly.

 

Oh ya, im gonna get them coated no matter what. More money? No big deal, i just wait longer, so sometimes patience pays off, and in this case it will.

 

That's nickel-chrome plating, not ceramic coating. Big difference.

 

oh..well that sux..I'm not getting those then. How about a set of the hedman (elite) headers? They are all ceramic coated.....but..with no air tubes. They are $258.99......if I decided to run the air tubes.....could I just get a set and have them installed???

 

No middle ground on emission controls, they work toghter.

 

What does this actually mean??? I have no cats right now....I'm just saying.....if the law started doing emission checks...and I had headers with NO air tubes...then...could someone install a set of air tubes for me....along with new cats.....???

 

I would just leave AIR on, I don't think it hurts HP bad enough for you to notice a difference.

 

when i got my headers for my car i got them with A.I.R. cuase in AZ we have emmissions. well when i went to dyno the car (just had engine/everything done) i didnt have anyemission stuff hooked up, no cat (u get the point), ect.. well i barely failed.. put a cat on.. passed with all 0.00's. so now im pissed i paided the extra $$ to have A.I.R. and dont need it.