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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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true duals??

Is there anyone heare that has them on their car? If so can you post pics so i can figure out how to do it to my car. Thanks!!
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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OK, you don't even have to do a search, just scroll down, there are at least 3 threads on this topic on the first page!
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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The next time, please perform a Search. True duals is one of the most common topics on this board and you will find a wealth of information.

Most true duals route the pipes lower than the stock setup and with no true spots for a pair of mufflers, they normally hang low. The other problem is getting both pipes over the rear axle because there is absolutely no room on the driver's side. But I have found a solution to all these inadequacies. Here's my setup:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=141550

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=145673

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=150564

Or if you prefer, click on "SC Z!!!" in my sig, then on the Exhaust tab.

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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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thanks!! is that something you made yourself or who did it? if you did it how buch would it cost for you to duplacate it and ship it to me in kansas?

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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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You're welcome. And welcome to our little website. You'll find answers to ALL your questions here. And I apologize for not welcoming you in my first reply. I just noticed your post count.

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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Willie
You're welcome. And welcome to our little website. You'll find answers to ALL your questions here. And I apologize for not welcoming you in my first reply. I just noticed your post count.

Willie
Yeah, I was like geez guys he's knew cut him some slack, either way welcome.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Willie
Most true duals route the pipes lower than the stock setup and with no true spots for a pair of mufflers, they normally hang low. The other problem is getting both pipes over the rear axle because there is absolutely no room on the driver's side.
While I completely agree with Willie, I took this problem as a pesonal challenge (that and I just don't like buying pre-made crap that I know I can make myself).
I went so far as to make my own mufflers because there are very limited options for 'mufflers' that fit the space requirements of making a dual exhaust that exits the rear of the car.
Here is what I came up with...
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=160883
which, still, IMO lacks as compared to Willie's but, I made mine for less
I do plan to make a new, true dual crossflow muffler that fits in the stock location because the current setup is way to bassy and a bit louder than I preferr.
IMO, making duals is definatly not worth it unless you have the skills to make it (completely) yourself or are pushing the power (such as Willie) to need it,

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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 01:47 AM
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Deadbird - how is your ground clearance on that? Do you scrape much? It doesn't look as bad as some others I've seen but its still not tucked up as much as I'd like on my car. My car seems to scrape enough as it is with 3" stock routed exhaust. Is your car lowered?
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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BTS.. Ground clearance is actually a small amount better than the Edelbrock y-pipe/hollow cat I had on there. If there pipes were any futher up under the car, they'd be inside the cabin. I've never, since owning one of these cars, driven over anything to scrape my exhaust.

In the 1st set of pics in that post I linked to, I had Hotchkis 1" drop springs which in reality, dropped the car nearly 2". I couldn't get a jack under the engine x-member even if I took the cup off. That pissed me off so, I sold them to TexasLT1 and he sent me his old RS springs. Technically, the car is lower than it was with the WS6 springs but, it's still 'stock' height.

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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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first of all thanks for the welcoms, second i my car has also been lowerd one inch, i have a custom y pipe on there now and it barely fits between my moroso pan and my crossmember will this make a difference?
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