Does anyone have a diagram on how to setup the exhaust pipe that uses spark plugs to shoot fire out of the exhaust pipes...

I want to set that up in my cavalier. Doesn't anyone have that diagram, or know where i can get one, or tell me how to do it?

 

what no idea's?

 

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sea...der=descending

 

AS i remember, the voltage for the spark comes from the electromagnetic field (created by running current through the coil) collapsing.

A circuit like this should work

+bat -------- (switch) ----------- + [coil] - -------| >ground
......................................................|.......................................
......................................................|........................................
................................... __________S.P._____
...........................tailpipe_________________/.......::::xXXXXFLAME!!!!

(Omit periods, for formatting purposes only)

with the circuit closed, current running through the coil would create the magnetic field. when you flip the switch off, it would collapse, causing a spark at the sparkplug. So by flipping the switch (or maybe a tapping a button where push-in=closed circuit would be better) you could be creating sparks like crazy, without interupting the engine in any way.

Now how you're gonna get the fuel there is another problem. Fuel injector? Nitrous solenoid?

LOL if it works out that easy, i might just try it








will that work?

 

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Do you have emissions up there? If so, you're SOL. If not, there's hope yet.

You need raw fuel to dump through the system. The catalytic can't handle that without either being damaged, or sitting there waiting like a time bomb.

For an easy to use kit contact this place
Flame Thrower Auto-Loc TK (503) 693-6608

They've got a cool kit that was shown on "Trucks" last weekend that's easy to use and install.

Sorry there's no website listed for them. You might actually have to talk to a real person.

 

they just installed one of those kits on trucks this weekend on the TNN powerblock...it was really easy to install, nice and simple....and it worked awesome

 

I saw that on trucks and thats why I am aquireing diagrams cause I want to install it on my cavalier. My cavalier has a cat. converter. I think I know how to do the spoark plug I just need to know what I need and how to set up some sort of fuel supply to my exhaust pipe. something that I can control from the dash.

 

Alright I think I have an Idea of how to do it..


For the spark plugs you, get a coil a couple of power wires, a long threaded spark plug, a bolt that the spark plug threads into. you mount the bolt to the inside of your exhaust pipe, and then thread the spark plug in it. then you get your coil and mount it under your car. and take the spark plug wire and hook it up under your car. then you get a ground and mount that to the coil and frame, and then you get the power wire mount it to the coil and then mount it to a switch and then to your battery.


The fuel setup, for teh fuel setup you, get a small propane tank witha shut off nozzle and a small fuel line and you hook the fuel line from the tank of propane to a solonoid, and from the solonoid you bring the line to the exhaust pipe?

NOW my question is this, can someone post a pic of this so called solonoid cause I have no idea what one is. I know that it can have pressure built up in it from the propane tank and then some how you can open or turn the solonoid on and release the pressure into the exhaust pipe. Now can you guys tell me how this Solonoid works? I have no idea what one is and how I turn it on and off. Do I use a switch of some sort that I can mount to the dash. Where do I mount the solonoid?

Any help?

 

dont take offense to this, but it sounds like your not exactly an expert in this area....and even if you were this is basically a recipe for disaster.

your gonna get hurt bad trying to do that, or at least potentially. the kit works the way it does cause not only is it simple, but its the safest way to do it.

 

The reason why these flametrowers work is cause your cars coil shuts off for a sertain amont of time letting raw fuel go thru your exhaust then you ignited at your tail pipe.
these guys have kits for cat. cars.............
http://www.gotflames.net/index.htm

About your propane idea, what happens if your flames run back into your "riged" lines and goes into your tank???? BANG!!! I wounld try to make your own set up cause you can also blow up your muffler too,,,,and whats right beside your muff your gas tank!!!

BUT then again has anyone here ever tryed this and brew up there muff?? Do you really think I should pay $80(US) for a little black box that Im not aloud to open and see whats in it??? Are theres flamethrower venders just feeding up halftruths and makeing us too paranoid to make our own flames WITHOUT buying there kits. Who knows I guess we keed to talk to a EXPERIENCED hot roder thats done these set ups for years,,,anyone know a guy like that???

 

cavalier? aaack!! it'll blow up like a cherry bomb!! no, actually i dont think it will, but still i think that the emissions on that wont let it shoot flames...unless you get that kit...

 

Dont worry I hasve no clue what i am doing so I can understand why I am not an "expert"


and jcurrie, that sites bandwidth is exceeded. I will recheck it later. If there is any info on cars with cat. convertors that has a system that works I will buy it 4 sure.

 

How bout running 2 fuel injectors and 2 spark plugs in the tail pipes. Run the plugs off a 2nd coil and plumb the 2 injectors into the fuel lines. Then hook them all up to a momentary switch. Or rig a switch underneath the accellerator so when you rev it, it would fire. You could use bigger injectors for bigger flame maybe. Also, since it would be hooked up to the fuel lines, injector cleaner would reach those injectors. Just my idea. I ain't an expert neither.

Matt

 

so your sasying to splice a fuel line and put it into the exhaust pipe? there is no way to hook your fuel line up to aswitch.. so that you get fuel to be delivered through that line that you made.

remember these things ARE illegal so you don't want to have them always fireing off.

 

did u guys see the episode of monster garage when jesse james made that stang gt convertable into a lawnmower? it had flame throwing exhaust. all they did was put in a spark plug the way u guys said to do it, but for the fuel they used a lantern sized propane tank connected to a hose that ran from the passenger compartment for easy access, spliced into the end of the tailpipe. so whenever u wanted it to flame all u do is turn on the propane and adjust for how much flame u want, the exhaust pressure keeps the propane moving out. its a lot like the pyrotechnics they use at universal studios and the like. lol i feel like hank hill

 

so technially my idea would sort of work right?

get HITHERE little gas stove and propane tanks and use HITHERE rubber tube and splice it into my echaust pipe it would wokr fine if HITHERE just turned the propane on in intervals?

and HITHERE just switch on teh spark plug switch and then turn the nozzle of the propane for some flame throwing action muahuahuahuha

 

SuPeR SpOrT- I menat use 2 fuel injectors and hook up the switch so it would get the signal to fire the injectors.
Matt

 

how can you do that (hook a switch up to your fuel lines)? can you make a visual diagram of what you mean?

 

Unfortunatly i can't do a diagram.

I'll try to explain the best i can though.

Run 2 spark plugs into the tailpipes. Weld a nut onto the pipes and screw in the spark plugs. Hook them up to a 2nd coil. The fuel injectors could be normal injectors. Split the fuel line at the engine bay. Run the extra fuel line to the injectors. Use an old injector harness and hook them up to power. Use the switch to control both the injectors and spark plugs. Cold start injectors probably could be used. They can spray continuosly for up to 8 seconds.

NOTE: I have not done this, nor have I seen it done. I have heard about this method from my buddy who has claimed to have seen it done. The method makes some sense to me, but I am not a certified mechanic. The problems I can see is getting the proper power to fire the injectors. I dont know how many volts the injecotrs use to fire. 12 volts may fry the injector. Hooking up the extra injectors could also be a problem. If the cold start injectors are used then it would have its own fuel line that could hook up to the older style rails. The line would have to be extended quite a bit though. It would also have to split into to so it can feed both tailpipes.

 

hmm i see wht you mean but I am not sure if it will work well,,,

Maybe some one else on here can let us know...

 

If you do a search you'll find a lot of information on here, we've discussed it a lot. I was planning on doing it but decided I would rather spend money on making it faster than the risk of explosion. I still might do it sometime in the future though. There are many different ways to do it but if your doing it with fuel injection I would use propane, it is a little safer than injecting gasoline into the exhaust. You also can't have any exhaust leaks because you risk the chance of it sucking in oxygen and causing an explosion. Good luck with it, if you get one to work make sure you post it.