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Old 11-11-2001, 07:29 PM
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Give me Five guys!

My car is finally in the shop as I
write this, should be done in the next
couple of days,getting Chrome edlebrock
tes headers, Dynomax High flow cat, and 3" flowmaster exhaust put on!! I can hardly wait!

P.S. A quick question for you guys! My car is a 91 firebird with a TBI 305.. do the 350 motors sound deeper and louder than the 305's with this configuration I have.. or is there much difference, and if there is.. is there, why is that exactly? and what could I do to make it sound more like the 350's? anything?

thanks!
later!
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Old 11-11-2001, 07:30 PM
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bigger engine, more air, more sound.

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Old 11-11-2001, 07:54 PM
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What kind of a shop did you take it to have te headers installed. How much did it cost you if you dont mind saying. Thanks
Old 11-11-2001, 09:38 PM
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I don't think there is much of a sound difference if any. Many people who have heard my exhaust asked me if I had a 350.

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Old 11-12-2001, 02:25 PM
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I paid 185 for headers installed and cats installed, i didnt' do it myself b/c i have no time and don't know how to weld, so dont call me a pu$$y
Also, i know a lot of people, so i think thats pretty cheap....and i dunno if thats what you'd pay...
Old 11-12-2001, 08:50 PM
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Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 305
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Well, I paid 525.00 to have it all
installed. but thats..

1. removing everything, including stock exhaust manifolds etc..

2. installing headers, y-pipe, cat, muffler, exhaust etc..

3. and I had them put all new high performancec spark plug wires maded for headers, and had them install a kit I bought that makes the wires run real neat and organized, like you see @ carshows and stuff.
Old 11-12-2001, 08:57 PM
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So did you take it to a muffler shop and have them intsall the headers or where did you take it to?
Old 11-13-2001, 05:49 AM
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Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 305
Transmission: 700R
I took it to this Auto Clinic called
M&M Auto repair, they are just a auto
repair shop, but they are really cool
there.. their only rule was that I had
to have the CAT or they couldnt do it,
but I wanted the cat anyway, I think
smog laws are only gonna get stricter,
besides, the CAT I chose is a Dynomax High flow cat.. what puny ammount of restriction it does have is probably beneficial for back pressure.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tas:
bigger engine, more air, more sound.

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How do you figure? Same TPI setup as a 305 except for injectors and Computer.
Old 11-13-2001, 10:38 PM
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Car: 1991 Pontiac Firebird
Engine: 305
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well, he means there is more cubic inch
of block, and a bit more diameter piston chamber etc, bigger better cam than the 305 has.. I know that for a fact atleast.. but
my question was really.. it's not THAT much bigger, so why such a huge difference in tone??? IS it the cam that causes that? or is the firing order different? I heard that the firing order on mustangs is why those 5.o's have that cool rumbly sound they have.
Old 11-14-2001, 03:26 PM
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Actually my old 305TPI TA sounded pretty damn mean with TES, a gutted cat, dynomax 3" catback, and a mild cam (208*/212* @ .050", .462"/.480"). You really couldn't tell if it was a 305 or a 350 from the exhaust sound. The exhaust note will be slightly different due to the extra cubes, but it has a lot to do with the design of the exhaust and the extent of the mods that have been done to the engine.

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Old 11-14-2001, 04:01 PM
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I believe the cam is definitley the biggest contributor to the exhaust sound. Change to a big cam in a 305 and it will rumble like the big boys!
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hey hey!! nice to see more IL


hope your part of www.MFBA.org

and im curious, how much did the high flow cat cost you?

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Old 11-19-2001, 04:30 PM
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the cat wasnt much at all..
less than 100 bucks
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