Kaas

Heya, i was just wondering if anyone knew where i could pick up a borla cat back system for a third gen any cheaper then $679 which is the cheapest i've found so far (out of Summit) if not i guess i will tough it out and pay the $679 for it

subzero

ah,part #14888 I think?...Good system ,but way overpriced compared to the Banks stainless system.You can probably get it from Entec @ 801 265 0994

BORLAZ06

u've got to be kidding me....it was $540 a few months ago. fugk that price.

Kaas

ya...that's what i'm sayin lmao

ksrammstein

You can get the borla system all over the internet for $599. Still a lot but it is the best flowing system on the market. Will last forever with the life time waranty and the ability to change the amount of flow goes throught the muffler is awesome. Not to mention the banks system looks like ***. Even though the banks system is much cheaper it is not better or even equal. It was so good it would be mass produced.

subzero

respectfully disagree with the above post ..mass produced means nothing.Keep in mind that banks is an "old salt" hi performance company that now does alot of diesel hi performance stuff and has made their mark in that arena,so to mass produce a system like this one,they would really need to change the whole focus of their business,which will not likely happen.if you look at the other thread going right now,it certainly isn't just me who likes the banks system,not to mention saving the extra several "C" notes to go buy some additional mods,just my 2 cents worth

tataconka

Sorry subzero but i disagree with you. I spent three months going to car shows spending time on the internet and researching what the best cat back system was. Most people in the field of building custom car said the Borla was the system to pick up because it allowed the most flow, you can change the flow rate (which helps to get stickers in some states), and it will out last any other system on the market. I have heard every type of system first hand and Borla is the best sound, but an exhaust system is something that different people like different things. The best flow system that will last is the borla. No disrespect

Kaas

where did you say i could pick up the cat-bat for around 550 on the net?

subzero

none taken..I don't disagree that the Borla is a nice piece but I personally could not justify the extra expense and I did not care for the dual angle tips on their system..they just looked kinda cheap to me,but to each his own on opinion..Most kits on the market are all going to perform similar and within a couple of HP either way,and since the banks was also stainless coupled with the fact I saved enough $$ to get my headers,it was a worth wise decision for me and the sound is amazing...Now,with that being said if I had enough $$ to burn would I have bought the Borla?...Only If I was planning on keeping the car for many ,many years and I knew I would get my $$'s worth out of the Borla kit.

ksrammstein

You can get the borla system for $599 from www.thunderracing.com, www.spohn.net, www.bigexhaust.com

You can get it for, I think, $499 from another website online like racerboy.com or some gay name like that, but the website looked horible and they seemed shady so I would stick with one of the above websites because they at least seem reliable.

pluss you don't have to pay tax and in most cases shipping is only like $25-30 if it isn't free. Beats summit's expensive *** any day.

ES87iroc

You could always look around for a used fourth gen kit, then you get the nice tips. Worked out great for me.

tataconka

subzero, I agree with what you said in the last message. I had the money and felt that doing it right with a good product would be my best ideal..I also did not like the dual tips on the back and just got the parts to finish the my system...I am making it a single tip system.. I think it will look good... I also got to see at a car show out side of indy speed way how cat back systems work and which ones preform the best (this is before i got mine), The borla perfomed the best in this test with flowmaster in second...the flow rate pressure was less for borla than any of the others by 6.5% (3" pipe) which means that you can move more away from the engine...

1bdbrd

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i say go cheap. find a 3 inch intermediate pipe, get a $35 cutout and a cheapy 3 inch inlet muffler. then get the tips that you like and be done. NOTHING outside of open headers will flow better than a cutout. GARUNTEED.

krogmister16

where are you people finding such cheap borla exaust sytems. on the borla website it costs $900+. and on summit it costs 800. i have not seen any that have been at like 700 or anything like that.

urbanhunter44

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Honestly I'd never buy borla, too much money.

Oh and in response to a previous post - mass produced means nothing. The best things are not mass produced - Ferrari and Lamborghini anyone?

BulliTooth

if i was going to spend that kind of $ on my exhaust i would go with a mufflex 4" catback for about the same $, thats to much money for a 3" catback....just my opnion thow

krogmister16

the reason why the borla system is so expensive is because 1.it is stainless steal 2.its adjustable. i mean it is kinda expensive but it will help you in the long run because it wont rust in 3 years.

roachjuice

LT1FUN

For what it's worth, I bought the adjustable Borla for my 4th gen Formula Firebird years ago when it first hit the market. Since that time, the price has gone up quite a bit which I think is B.S. but I have to say, in all the time I've owned my Firebird, I've only seen 2 other Fbody's on the road that had the same exhaust as me.

Borla is definetely the best sounding exhaust on an LT1 and I'm sure it sounds (almost) as good on an L98.

I think the people who bad-mouth Borla are just a little miffed that they don't have one themselve's.

Seriously, it's one thing to say it's expensive (which it is) but it's something else entirely to call it an overpriced cut out.

We're talking a full 3" manderal bent stainless steel exhaust with one of (if not THE most free-flowing mufflers on the market) and the ability to choose the tone of how the exaust sounds with just the change of the supplies plates. The fact that you're also buying exclusivity, is, in my opinion, also a bonus.

No other exhaust on the market has these features but plenty of them are just as expensive but for some reason, people don't seem to mind the price of over-priced systems like. GMMG, Corisca, etc. etc.,

The one thing negative I do have to say about the 82-92 version of the Borla, are about those aweful looking exhaust tips.

They should just have kept the same square tips as the 4th gen style or a set of turn-downs or something. Those round dual tips are about as ugly as those on the SLP loudmouth cat backs....

The square tips look the best. For reference, here's what they look like on my '93 Formula.

crazyL

i just got borla put on my 85 T/a ill take some pics tomorrow. SOunds good i got mine for 700 from Bolra direct instead of 906 ahah uncle noes some peeps. But anyway i love the sounds and the way it looks I fet it was worth it. Before that i had a cut out and i didnt like to. Way to loud and didnt sound good. Then i just had open headers and that was beat to. Unless u like very loud ****ty sound go with the cut out but the bolra has a nice deep *** growl.

irocyourpants

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Procarparts.com: Shop for Headlights, Tail Lights, Racing Seats, Body Kits, Mufflers & more looks to be 622.97 before shipping for the adjustable version prob screw u on shipping tho

Brisk

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crazyL or anyone else.. can u post a vid/sound clip of the borla system?

krogmister16

just search for borla exaust on myspace videos and you will find a firebird formula with a borla exhaust. it sounds beautiful

Larry Dunlap

I got mine used on Ebay used for like $300. I love it. I had the largest hole plate for a long time with cats. It was quite quiet at Idle but sounded good at WOT. I just recently removed the cats and installed a cutout where the cats were. The exaust was LOT loouder even with the cutout on. So I put in the smallest plate and it sounds nice for the street. When I get to the track I pull the cutout out and it doesnt matter. Its nice having that capacity to adjust. Another think I noticed, when I had the big plate in there and got it officially inspected for emissions, I noticed they put the sniffer in the other side that got maybe 10% of the exhaust. I wonder if that helped.

So it love that it is adjustable and stainless. I don't think the tips look bad. Here are mine

crazyL

sorry guys been working alot lately. o yea ****ed my car up pulling out. back bumper got caught on tool box so my got a deep srtached so i need to get the back bumper repainted. o well. any way ill have the video up in a few mins.

crazyL

Putfile - Trans Am borla exhaust there you go people. keep in mind only got it to about 4 grand didnt wana **** ppl off

Brisk

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that does sound pretty good.. thanks for putting that up