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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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383 Stroker. Most power from exhaust?

89 IROC 383 roller stroker with tunnel ram. Not all together yet. What size headers and tubes from from to rear will give me the best power? Thanks for your help!!!!
I am working with a clean slate here.
I am also budget minded but can spend a little.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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What are the specs on the motor? If its a high compression, big solid roller cammed motor you might consider 1 7/8" primary tube headers into dual 3".
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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1 7/8" primary tube
LOL!!!

Hooker SuperComp LT 1 3/4" headers will do ya just fine, plus they will bolt in out of the box.

Your gonna have to pay to play when it comes to exhaust.

3rd gens suck for setting up true dual exhaust, it can be done, ground clearance goes to hell.

Mufflex has 3.5" and 4" single kits, they support lofty power levels.

I run a Mufflex/Spintech 3.5" setup behind my Hooker SuperComps.
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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by OMINOUS_87
LOL!!!

Hooker SuperComp LT 1 3/4" headers will do ya just fine, plus they will bolt in out of the box.

Your gonna have to pay to play when it comes to exhaust.

3rd gens suck for setting up true dual exhaust, it can be done, ground clearance goes to hell.

Mufflex has 3.5" and 4" single kits, they support lofty power levels.

I run a Mufflex/Spintech 3.5" setup behind my Hooker SuperComps.
Why do you even post on this site?

Why do you oppose large tube headers? Stahl makes several different large tube header setups for 3rd gen Camaros, and it is not like he is going to be worried about low end torque and streetability with a tunnel ram...

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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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Why do you even post on this site?
Listen pal, I dont know you and I have no idea why you are stalking me.

Maybe you can educate me as to why the bigger headers would be of any significant benefit, at the mentioned buildup.

If you dont have any expreience running the parts you recomend you should think before just tossing your .02 cents in.

OK!

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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by OMINOUS_87
Listen pal, I dont know you and I have no idea why you are stalking me.

Maybe you can educate me as to why the bigger headers would be of any significant benefit, at the mentioned buildup.

If you dont have any expreience running the parts you recomend you should think before just tossing your .02 cents in.

OK!
Car Craft gained 26 horsepower swapping to 1 7/8" primary tube headers on a 500 horsepower 400. They stated that they also lost a lot of low end torque, but he better not care about low end torque with a tunnel ram anyways.

I have first hand experience with stahl headers. And by your own words, if you have never used a set of 1 7/8" headers, you should not be commenting in this thread either...
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 06:28 AM
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time for a good old fashioned mag race folks
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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1 3/4" headers, 2 1/2" duals or maybe 3 1/2" single. Dual 3", single 4", and headers bigger than 1 3/4" require alot of power. You'd really have to post what kind of power you intend on making instead of just the ci. and intake. Also what times you want to run.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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time for a good old fashioned mag race folks
ROFLMAO: I hear ya brotha!

Bench racers, start your engines!!!
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Car Craft gained 26 horsepower swapping to 1 7/8" primary tube headers on a 500 horsepower 400. They stated that they also lost a lot of low end torque, but he better not care about low end torque with a tunnel ram anyways.

I have first hand experience with stahl headers. And by your own words, if you have never used a set of 1 7/8" headers, you should not be commenting in this thread either...
:lala: :lala: :lala:

Magazines are like the Bible: Some people hang on every word and others take magazine results with a grain of salt.

You still havent educated anyone about the the requirements of 1 7/8" primaries from your own and experience.

I am sure that people would be interested to know you are recomending a 1000$ set of headers that will probably have terrible fitment issues.


Lastly, no I have no need for 1 7/8" primaries, however I do know a thirdgen owner who is running them, hmmmm, he also is running a 6-71
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8
1 3/4" headers, 2 1/2" duals or maybe 3 1/2" single. Dual 3", single 4", and headers bigger than 1 3/4" require alot of power. You'd really have to post what kind of power you intend on making instead of just the ci. and intake. Also what times you want to run.
If he is running a tunnel ram I would hope he is shooting for well over 550 horsepower. You are right however, this may be a stock headed, 8.5:1 compression stroker motor that someone just wants a tunnel ram on for looks.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by OMINOUS_87
:lala: :lala: :lala:

Magazines are like the Bible: Some people hang on every word and others take magazine results with a grain of salt.

You still havent educated anyone about the the requirements of 1 7/8" primaries from your own and experience.

I am sure that people would be interested to know you are recomending a 1000$ set of headers that will probably have terrible fitment issues.


Lastly, no I have no need for 1 7/8" primaries, however I do know a thirdgen owner who is running them, hmmmm, he also is running a 6-71
ha ha you are a riot...

The magazine I am referring to used a scientific piece of equipment to measure power output of the motor. If you think 26 horsepower is laughable and a joke then you obviously arent the type of person that cares about going fast.

I am a drag racer through and through. I have experience with large tube headers in a few different small block chevy applications. However, those motors we put large tube headers on were never ran without large tube headers.

Stahl headers can be purchased tacked together for around the same price as a set of hooker super comps, as long as you or a friend know how to weld.

I will have solid numbers in the spring for this debate. A friend and I are putting large tube (1 7/8") headers on a 91 s10 with a 383.

I say again, if those of you posting have never used a set of large tube headers then what makes you feel that you are educated enough to tell this guy why he does not need them?
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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26hp at the crank? or wheels?
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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26hp at the crank? or wheels?
At the crank it was an engine dyno.
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