Ok guys, help me decide before my purchase!
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Ok guys, help me decide before my purchase!
I am going to get 2055's. No sniffer here.
1) Should I have the air tubes chopped off, holes welded shut, then have the headers coated? Or should I just leave them on there?
2) If I did have them chopped, all I have to do is plug off where the tubes go now? Or would I have to bypass the air pump?
3) I am also thinking of a cutout. If I get the Y pipe coated, then take it somewhere for the cutout install, will this cause the coating to crack/chip?
1) Should I have the air tubes chopped off, holes welded shut, then have the headers coated? Or should I just leave them on there?
2) If I did have them chopped, all I have to do is plug off where the tubes go now? Or would I have to bypass the air pump?
3) I am also thinking of a cutout. If I get the Y pipe coated, then take it somewhere for the cutout install, will this cause the coating to crack/chip?
Last edited by IROCThe5.7L; Jan 25, 2004 at 05:13 AM.
once u get the air tubes off the headers and plug each hole, u dont have any use for the smog pump any more, and just remove all that stuff it gets in the way anyway 
after that i would then get the headers coated, a nice set of coated non air headers looks sweet.
as far the y-pip i wouldnt even bother getting it coated, but thats just me, with all the low spots i go over y-pipe touching happens.
cant say about cutting the coated y-pipe for a cutout, just add the cutout right after the y-ypipe.

after that i would then get the headers coated, a nice set of coated non air headers looks sweet.
as far the y-pip i wouldnt even bother getting it coated, but thats just me, with all the low spots i go over y-pipe touching happens.
cant say about cutting the coated y-pipe for a cutout, just add the cutout right after the y-ypipe.
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Originally posted by MdFormula350
cant say about cutting the coated y-pipe for a cutout, just add the cutout right after the y-ypipe.
cant say about cutting the coated y-pipe for a cutout, just add the cutout right after the y-ypipe.
But wont that make the exhaust longer??
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Originally posted by IROCThe5.7L
But wont that make the exhaust longer??
But wont that make the exhaust longer??
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Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
Have you looked at the non emission SLP's. You can get those coated without AIR all in one step. Sure they are more but by the time you add up your costs for the others it may be the same.
Have you looked at the non emission SLP's. You can get those coated without AIR all in one step. Sure they are more but by the time you add up your costs for the others it may be the same.
I looked into them, and from what I read, I dont want the hassle
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JetHot offers the 2055's already coated with the y-pipe coated as well. Mine were $520 delivered to my door, but I believe their prices went up. If you don't want the AIR tubes, I would email them and ask them if they can chop them off and weld them up before they coat them.
I would just leave the AIR tubes on it though, since sooner or later I bet all states will have emissions laws and you may have to change.
I would just leave the AIR tubes on it though, since sooner or later I bet all states will have emissions laws and you may have to change.
I did all the work myself. I cut off the tubes with an air grinder, ground the welds down, filed them smooth, had them welded up for $15 bucks, and then reground them down smooth. I doubt if you had someone else do it they would take all the time to make it look like they were never there in the first place. Just save the $ and do it yourself. It's pretty easy.
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Man, I dont know what I want to do. ACS gave me a very good price to chop and coat.
Try to find someone who has had the same thing done and see how good of a job they did. I can tell you though that my headers look like nothing has been touched and they came that way from hooker. If acs can do that then if you dont mind paying a little extra go for it, if not then i'de just do it yourself. Really it's simply, if you have a hacksaw and a file you are good to go.
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Just get coated 2055s and I would get the Y pipe coated(if you are not scraping it) so the exhaust would flow hotter farther. That should give the shorties very similar performance of coated long tubes. Also just leave the AIR tubes on. They don't hurt performance and you are helping the environment. Plus you never know what the laws will provide. I agree that it looks cleaner under the hood without them, but one could make the point that coated AIR tubes kinda look cool. Especially to the untrained eye.
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You might want to check out the info in this stickie above https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=213310 before you chop off the A.I.R. system.
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Originally posted by five7kid
You might want to check out the info in this stickie above https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=213310 before you chop off the A.I.R. system.
You might want to check out the info in this stickie above https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=213310 before you chop off the A.I.R. system.
Ive read that before, I am not really worried about it. I am still undecided though.
Anyone got any information about the 2055's have an air tube backwards or something?
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If you have a factory carb'd engine, the driver's side check valve points to the front. 2055's have the driver's side check valve point to the rear, like stock TPI.
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When i got my 2460s, the passenger side check valve pointed to the rear, and i had to flip it around to make it hook up correctly to the air stuff, why is that? Just curious, but now i don't have any a.i.r stuff at all. oh, on a stock 85 TA TPI 305
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Is it possible to just plug the spot where the air tubes go, and leave it be for a bit? Or if I plug them, do I have to stop the pump from working?
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I ran mine capped for 2 years (started the mods half an hour after passing emissions when stock, then finally hooked the system up when it was time to get it tested again).
But, I've got a carb'd system. I don't know if the stickie A.I.R.-delete stuff applies to me (I doubt it does).
But, I've got a carb'd system. I don't know if the stickie A.I.R.-delete stuff applies to me (I doubt it does).
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Oh, guess I should have said I capped off at the check valve mount, and I didn't run the pump. Easy enough to take that belt off on my system.
If you don't have it hooked up, I wouldn't run it.
If you don't have it hooked up, I wouldn't run it.
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Originally posted by IROCThe5.7L
Is it possible to just plug the spot where the air tubes go, and leave it be for a bit? Or if I plug them, do I have to stop the pump from working?
Is it possible to just plug the spot where the air tubes go, and leave it be for a bit? Or if I plug them, do I have to stop the pump from working?
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Originally posted by 85TransAm406
you could just run the smog-pump delete belt routing
you could just run the smog-pump delete belt routing
AIR & why it is backasswards
Hello Guys, OKAY, All the AIR equiped hears are set up for TPI if you have TBI then you need to reverse 1 of the AIR inlet setups.
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