... well its somewhat y pipe related:

The thing is I had a custom exhaust built for my car for almost a grand, and they charged me a good portion of that for the fabrication of the y pipe - though the issue I have with it is, the other day (almost five months later) I was looking it over, and its really a terrible job , the, "y pipe," is really just a single piece of 2.5( I had asked for 2.75 in.) in pipe from the drivers side with a hole cut in it, to meet the 1 in. flange they installed on my passenger side header (then sealed with exhaust goo) then after two feet they used the right size pipe.

To add insult to injury a day later I went and looked at the flowmaster 2.75 in. y pipe to match my headers and for a hundred and seventy bucks, I could have had a way better part than the three hundred and thirty dollar part they fabbed.

I geuss my real question at the end of that little rant is; do you think after this stretch that my complaint is still valid?

 

If it was still valid then you would not have to ask...

 

I dunno, six months is a long time. When I had my SLP header pipes welded to the cats he used a peice of 2" diameter pipe to attach them to the cats. Gee thanks, I just spend $430 on the best headers I could buy and you throw in some cheezy 2" diameter pipe. Oh yea he didn't even weld around the top of the pipe, too lazy to remove the exhaust to get to the top.

If I were you I guess I would complain. It can't hurt.. Do you have any pics of the y-pipe? Curious to see what it looks like.

 

I'll grab a coupla shots when I get home. I was looking at it again last night - its really sketchy.

 

drivers side


pass side


crap fab close up (view taken from behind on a bit of an angle)


taken from a bit further back


so thats my four hundred dollor y pipe and 2.75 in exhaust setup. Yup.

Pipe suddenly swtichs size + style!

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by g_ride

The person who did the job should be sued. I do not know if you have a case because you waited so long and I am not much of a believer in lawsuits but IMO you were robbed and I would think that at the minimum you should talk to a lawyer to find out where you stand. I cannot even imagine someone doing a hack job like that and then having the ***** to charge that much.

 

I can't even think of the words to describe that. That makes me angry and it's not even my car.

 

Six months is a long time, but if it's a reputable shop I'd still go back and ask to speak to the owner/manager about it. It's not like it's changed since they did the work or "worn out" due to usage or anything...

You might also mention filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau as well as talking to a lawyer if they try to stonewall you. Reputable name brand kind of shops dread hearing both of these and it might spur them into action if they're decent folks. If not, then contact both.

That sure is a hack job though, worth maybe $50 but not much more than that!


- Vern

 

That looks like something from Junkyard Wars

 

That looks like a typical local exhaust shop job. They don't have experience with that stuff, so they do what they can. You could have done better by buying the flowmaster y section, some mandrel tubing from summit, and taking it to them to cut and weld together while you measured and cut the pieces.

I think once you pay for it, you have accepted the product somewhat? Did you look under the car when they were done and before you left?

 

I don't think in paying for it I accepted the product because I was pretty much forced into paying for it unseen.

Also, I had asked them for one size of piping, not a patchwork between two and a half inch to two and three quarters, and before having the work done I asked if it would be better to just get the aftermarket parts, but they said they could achieve the same caliber of work and they had done this fab quite few times.

The other part that really is quite annoying is that the additional flange they welded on looks entirely like they had just initially measured and bent the pipe badly, so instead of replacing it maguyvered it and sent it out.

also, for the record, - all told my exhaust job cost eight hundred dollars (canadian) including the cost of a flow-pro muffler.

 

... this just in, the people responsible for this exhaust plan on doing - sweet bugger all. I talked to the store manager told him my issues with it, showed him the pictures, and he said, "yeah, so?"

 

Sounds like you've pretty much been "$crued" and probably didn't evern get kissed (and probably didn't want one from them anyway!). Actually, this sounds more like r8pe. You probably need to very carefully look over all future work while still at the shop and before you pay for it. That's really the only "bargaining" time you're going to get.

I'm afraid you are going to have to pay for a good system all over again. Sorry, mate. I'd definitely be checking out references on the next place I go to, plus be very specific on what they are going to do --- and what parts they are going to use.

By any chance do you have the equivalent of a Chamber of Commerce, or a Better Business Bureau? Some local consumer's group you could talk to or file a complaint with? Just a thought.

Sorry, but you probably should have gotten back to them within the first week or so at the latest, I'd have done it before I left the shop if at all possible. Six months is a long time to wait and then complain, even if it is an obvious hack job and extremely shoddy work.


- Vern

 

the next shop you go to to have exhaust work done-you should before you pay for demand to have it put on a lift, or ask to have it jacked up so you can inspect it.

I've seen some hack jobs before and that one takes it, its absolutly horrible.

 

Replace it. I would then advertise the hacked one on ebay. I would be completely honest in the ad and include pictures and the name and address of the shop that fabricated the custom exhaust. I would not say anything bad about the shop in the ad, just let the pictures do the talking. You might want to seek legal advice first.

 

I would hang it outside the establishment that created it with a sign saying this is why you shouldn't have your exhaust repaired here!

 

Wouldn't they just remove it?

 

if im not mistaken, there is long time in which you can make a claim, 6 months in reality is not that long. Im sure if you took it back to them and showed them (maybe an owner) the shotty job they owuld help you and redo it rathr than risk you spreading bad news about their business.

 

He said he talked to the manager and even showed him the pics and that the manager did not care.

 

try going over the managers head...

 

Don't you want to let us know the name of this shop, so the rest of us can avoid it (like the plague)?

BTW, there is a place where you can post your reviews on after-market vendors. Take a look at it.

Do you have the American equivalent of a small claims court? I'm not sure you are going to get anything, and you may need the testimony of someone who knows exhaust systems, to explain the value (or lack thereof) of such a shoddy job.

 

that is just typical exhaust shop work.

nothing bad, just normal everyday exhaust to them.

you wanted a performance exhaust system, but they did what they always do.


id drop it, and in the future goto a shop capable of performance work.

 

if i paid somebody for work on my car, and recieved that, i would make it part of the installers large intestine. Sue them! Buy a real system and drag it to court with you and sue them! You can't let ignorant morons get away with crap like this, eventually they reproduce and create more ignorant morons

 

makes me scared. i have to get mine done by a shop also, becuase of me not having the welding capability and a 3inch pipe bender.

 

Thre are a lot of members on this site, My suggestion is post the phone # for this so called "muffler shop" and lets inundate them with phone calls regarding their "quality" of work and lack of customer service towards our fellow 3rd genner!!! 500 or 600 phone calls should do the trick!!!

 

This is exactly why I'm installing a 220v outlet this weekend. I can't stand letting other people touch my car.

 

That is one scary lookin y pipe...my 9 yr old nephew could have done a better job. I would do what a friend of mine did when a shop did a hack job on his 73 vette. He had big magnetic door signs like you see on commercial trucks and vans made that said carXmufflers screwed me, call me and ask me how, and he put his cell number on there...lol. He rode around with them on his pickup for about three months. Everytime someone called he would tell them the shop location and how they screwed him over.

 

$hit dude that looks like crap sorry to say. Yes go back and either ask for a refund or get them to do it properly! Like mentioned that is what they done it has not changed.

Honestly I have no experience what so ever doing exhausts but I would pretty much bet anything I would do a better job then that.

I also had a custom set of headers Tri-Y done on my IROC and am very happy with them. I ended up paying $800AUD as I live in Australia this was to the CAT.

I would definitely go back and get what you deserve.

 

I had a shop make my y-pipe for $86 pretty much the same thing but a lot cleaner looking

 

daym man, go kick that guys ***, i think a 5 yr old messing with a welder and some pipe did your Y pipe,