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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Painting Headers

i was in autozone the other day and i see they had some 1400* high temp paint...and i'm pretty sure headers don't exceed that and i was thinking about painting my headers with some of that stuff...anybody ever try this? does it still flake off? i don't want to turn this into a big argument about why i should get my headers jet hot coated or anything like that cuz that isn't happening....i just want to know if any of you guys have tried this paint and how it worked...
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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You have to follow the directions to the T. And then it still may flake a little. If you do a search you will find the same question asked and basically some reviews on it.

Make sure the pipes are cleaned. Make sure you cure the paint or it will flake.
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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Yes, you have to use the 'baking' directions, or it won't stay on... I did my headers 3 times like that... paint, bake, cool, paint, bake, cool.... so they should hold up pretty well.
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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what do you bake them in? i would stick them in an oven but i don't think they would fit, they are long tubes....
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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EDIT: N/M wasnt you that I was telling about it in a nother post........ anwyays

The VHT Hi temp will work and last a decent while if you prep em right and oven cure it also...

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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I used the oven in my house... my shorties just barely fit in there though.

That **** stinks like nothing else too... open ALL the windows if you do this.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:59 AM
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*** I hope you dont eat out of that oven anymore....

You know all the headercoatings release a toxic fume when cured.....
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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hmm...i'll go to the dumps and find an oven and do it outside ....my neighbors might look at me funny but oh well....thats gonna be a tight fit for those LT's tho, but they aren't as big as i thought they were gonna be...
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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So what longtubes did you get, klumb? Do they have O2 bung? Maybe snap a pic?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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I wonder if a local paint shop could do that for you. Paint them with high temp paint and bake them. That probably wouldn't be very cost effective if they even do.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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i got the hedman hedder LT's, they are nice headers but they don't have the o2 bung in them yet...i gotta weld it in there yet, i'll get that done before i paint them....but i just heard today that there is a industrial powder coating shop in the area, so they should be able to bake them for me....can you powerdercoat headers or doesn't that work?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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They do make a HI TEMP powder but dont let them talk you into it. I am a Ceramic,Thermal and Powder coater. I own my own company.

The hi temp powder looks like crap. I wont even use it. and tell people that want it to goto soandso.. Id reather turn the $$ away then powdercoat headers with junk. and for what You would pay to have em hi temp powdercoated I can ceramic coat them.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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In the past, we've always used VHT hi-Temp paint, cleaned the headers and dried, set them in front of a kerosine/torpedo heater and get them warm. Spray the paint on, set them in front of the heater again till they're warm/dry and do it again.

They seem to hold up pretty well, I've never had them flake, crack, peel. Only problem we had since we drive them is moisture. driving in the rain, frequent under hood washing will eventually cause some surface rust, but that's to be expected for a car that actually gets used frequently.

We've gotten one set of headers back from Jet-Hot last month, $18 to ship there and $13 to ship back(they must have a volume discount with Fed-EX) and $275 for the coating itself-this stuff is second to none, but not practical when on a budget.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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not practical at all!...maybe i'll try that bullet heater method you said...that sounds easy enough....does anybody know if they make a sweet looking header wrap or sleeve type thing that I could just put over my headers? because then it would keep the engien bay temps down too....but the traditional header wrap that you see everywhere looks like your headers are dressin up for holloween as a mummy or something....or your headers just got TPed...looks terrible IMO....that would be awesome if they made some kind of zip up sleeve or something, or maybe they do??
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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You want to stay away from that if your planning long term with these headers and will street drive it. They trap in the heat and ALSO trap in moisture that will eventually start the rusting process since it has no place to go. They're a good concept, just bad for a street type car.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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You can do a PARTIAL cure in front radient heat. like the propain lamp heaters. and when you run them on the car it will fully cure.

I use TURBO X is the highest temp product on the market now for Turbo specific aplications. I do a pre cure at 500* for 1hr in the Oven. and Then they fully cure on the car when fired up and run.

It can be applied and AIR dried. You dont HAVE to do a pre cure at 500*. You can just let them dry and put em on the car.

techline coatings is who I get all my coating supplies from.

$275 is alot from JET HOT. I charge $200 + shipping on shorties. and $225 on Long Tubes.. and Give a Lifetime warrenty on new parts. 3year on used.

klum, feel free to give me a call if you need some pointers or help. My PH# is on my website. Id be more then happy to help ya out man.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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Just a teaser of Ceramic I have done. 100% inside and out of anything I coat.

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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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where can i get that turbo grade paint from? The thing is I need this ASAP cuz the motor is going in in a week, so I have to figure out soemthing quick....and ceramic coating is out of the question, i don't have the money to throw around for that right now...if i was a little older than 18 I would probably be very interested in it, but I got a lot more than i expected into my car, so I'm just trying to get her out and running soon...
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Try some of the POR-20 exhaust coating. If you prep right, it works prety good. All depends on the prep though. It cures itself when the engine runs and smokes like crazy for a few minutes. Worked great on the turbo manifold on my Conquest, but not so great on the heder on my Cherokee. I did the Cherokee in quickie mode though, so I probably didnt clean it well.

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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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where can i get this from? autozone, carquest, napa? any of those?
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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No, you have to order it from Por-15.
http://www.por-15.com

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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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TURBO X ™

* Extreme temperature Exhaust system coating designed specifically for Turbo’s.
* Available in BLACK and BLUE
* Reduces under hood temperatures, reduces exhaust manifold surface temperatures
* Improve exhaust gas velocity, increase H.P.
* Available in 8 OZ. (Retail Packaged) Quart, Gallon
* Air drying requires no baking

I wont use anything but this or the ceramic from tech line.

Heres the website.
http://www.techlinecoatings.com/CoatingProducts.htm

You can buy it right form them. If not I can get you a bottle from them.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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how much would it be if you got me enough to do my headers?
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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8oz will be enough to do inside and out of your setup and have left over.

e-mail me and I'll get ya a price. Remind me who you are in the subject with TURBO X and your username also.
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