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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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LG4 Exhaust

Im planning on installing an entire exhaust system on my LG4. Now Ive read that the hooker 2055 headers are highly recomended. My only question is, I live in illinois and therefore have emissions test. This these headers be ok, or do i need to look into a different brand. Also what are some other good cats catbacks and mufflers that are emissions safe but not restrictive.

What im looking for is to have the exhaust 3 in, the whole way through.. Im also looking for performance gains. For sound, I dont want the new system to wake up the neghborhood, but i do want it to lay down a deep below at WOT. Any help would be great, thank you
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 03:29 AM
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The 2055s are emissions legal, but you'll have to fix the problem of the driver's side A.I.R. tube facing the wrong way. I know some people have used brass elbows and some piping to fix this problem. I personally had my friend cut the air tubes off and weld them shut because I don't have emissions testing in my state.

As far as catbacks go, you have a lot of options here. You'll want a full 3" catback all the way from the catalytic convertor to the muffler, but there are plenty of companies to choose from that make a setup like this. Flowmaster, Hooker, SLP, Dynomax, Magnaflow, Banks, and Edelbrock are just some of the companies to choose from. I'm personally an anti-Flowmaster guy because that's all everyone around here seems to have, so I went with a Hooker SuperComp catback.

Good luck, hope this helps a bit.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Technically, the 2055's are only legal on '86-'90 TPI single cat applications. However, here in Colorado where they do a full under-hood inspection and dyno sniffer, they didn't seem to care enough to look up the application for the headers. From what I hear, they are more strict here in Colorado than they are by the pond in the Land of Lincoln.

As for the sniffer, if you have the A.I.R. hooked up and a good cat (such as the Catco 9118), and the engine is in good tune and condition, you won't have any problems there.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Cool, thanks for the tips. Am i better off buying a system all together by one company, or mixing and matching the rest of the exhaust?
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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If they are direct replacement parts, it doesn't matter as long as you get everything for the same application. The 2055's and 9118 are direct replacements for '86-'90 TPI single cat application, so as long as your cat-back is for the same, it will all bolt together and work just fine.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Ok after reasearching a little bit this is what ive decided...

Headers.... Hooker 2055 HOK-2055-1HKR
Cat.... CATCO CTO-9118
Catback.... American Thunder FLO-17233

The item numbers are from summit. Would this all fit together correctly? Also on summit it said that these are for 86-92 camaros, but i remember seeing that it doesnt matter, is that true for my case?
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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The american thunder cat-back sounds nice to some, but just remember that you're sacrificing maybe 3 or so rwhp (like it matters) by going with a flowmaster and that it's really rather quiet compared to other catbacks.

The hookers and that cat are good choices
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Cool, thats kind of what im looking for, I dont want a supper loud system, just one thats a little louder than stock, but is alot less restricitive obviously.
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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Ive been debating on the american thunder cat back the hooker catback. ... HOK-16820HKR Is one noticably better, performance wise? Also how do they stack up side by side with their volume?
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Just curious on how you planned on getting from the headers to the cat. Are you getting a custom Y-pipe made?
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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never mind, I assume they come with a Y-pipe like the HOK-2055HKR does. They just don't show it in the picture. I think.
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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Yea it says y pipe included on summit
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by Frozer!!!
Ive been debating on the american thunder cat back the hooker catback. ... HOK-16820HKR Is one noticably better, performance wise? Also how do they stack up side by side with their volume?
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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I'll let you know how the Hooker setup sounds once I get it on my car. I'm currently waiting for Jet-Hot to send me my headers back.

My car has a stock 85 LG4.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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cool, thanks
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:37 AM
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Question, I was looking at Hookers website. I saw that for the HOK-16820HKR cat back that its for the non H.O. engines. They got the HOK-16822HKR for the H.O. engines. Would the one for HO engines be better for performance, and there wouldnt be any issues installing the HO catback on a non HO engine would there?
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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You don't want either with the CTO-9118. You want HOK-16823HKR.

There aren't any issues putting the "HO" exhaust on a non-HO engine, however there are issues trying to attach incompatible parts. The '83-'85 HO system has a different connection to the cat than the '86-'90 TPI single cat systems do.
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Ah, ok thanks very much
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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Would I be able to buy that catback and cat and hook it up to my stock y-pipe until i save up some money for 2055's or would the 3" input on the cat not match up with the stock y-pipe?
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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It wouldn't match up. But, you could have a 2-1/4-3" adapter fabricated to mate the y-pipe to the cat. Don't modify the cat, though, just the old y-pipe.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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My system consists of ceramic coated 2055s, for the drivers side a brass tube was put in the rubber hose, then another rubber hose attached to it to make the 180 degree bend.

I bought a Y-pipe to match, a three inch summit cutout, a cheap 3 inch catco cat, and a Hooker Catback. I really like the look of the exhaust tips, but I hate how much the mufflers for these cars weigh.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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hows that exhaust sound on your lg4? notice performance gains?
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:00 AM
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It sounds nice. It would sound better without the peanut cam, but I like it. With the cutout open, it sounds mean.

I don't have any before numbers for the track, but I can only imagined it helped a ton. Log manifolds to headers, tiny bent y-pipe to a 3 inchmandrel bend, a clogged cat to a 3 inch in/out, you get the idea.
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Old Oct 25, 2005 | 02:33 AM
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I finally got the headers on. It sounds good, but it's a little raspy and extremely loud. All I have on now is the 2055s and the y-pipe. However, it does sound a lot better than it did with the stock exhaust.

My friend is going to weld up the rest of the system on Saturday. I'll report back when it gets done.
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