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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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I have been looking at part # HED-68481 out of summit and I have a real slim budget and I just want to get the headers done with. Are these headers any good? I think I am going to keep my AIR stuff so I dont foul my catco cat and so emissions dont give me a hard time. Will the o2 bung be there and all already? Thank you guys, I was either going to be these or the pacesetter headers.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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i don't believe that those hedmans have AIR provisions.

but other than that, they are a nice piece.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Those are the emissions-legal hedders with single-cat y-pipe, O2 sensor bung, and A.I.R. provision.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Good headers though right?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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"Good", but probably not "as good as" Hooker 2055's.

The y-pipe is only 2-1/2" where the 2 sides join, then has an adapter to fit a 3" cat. The Hookers are 3" from where the 2 sides join & on.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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Well i wanted to re-use my 2 1/4 inlet catco cat, and I see that easier with 2 1/2 y-pipe instead of 3 y-pipe.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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Well, that 2-1/4" cat should help maintain performance at its current level, that's for sure.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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You can use a reducer just like on the headers to make any pipe go into any cat, but five7 is right, reducing it to a 2-1/4 is going to defeat the purpose all together. Plus, you need a high-flow cat to realize any of the potential of headers/cat backs.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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It is a high flow cat and i felt a huge difference with just a catback. I dont care how bad you bottle-neck it, nothing is worse than that ****ty stock y-pipe.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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I understand, I am just saying if you are going to come this far...

As far as the Heddman headers, I would definitely reccomend them. Go with the shorties, they might not perform quite as well as long tubes, but rattle less, leak less often, and won't drag or crack as easy.

I am running the stepped primaries (tork-step) shorties, no cat and 3in catback. Tork-step definitly works, between that and the timing, my camaro has enough bottom end that its hard to keep the tires from busting loose in low gear, granted its a H.O. crate motor but it still has 2.73s.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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i have a set of edelbrock TES headers for sale in the classifieds if ur interested. quality is ok. better than some, not as good as others. but dunno if they'll work with ur single cat.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick_IX
I understand, I am just saying if you are going to come this far...

As far as the Heddman headers, I would definitely reccomend them. Go with the shorties, they might not perform quite as well as long tubes, but rattle less, leak less often, and won't drag or crack as easy.

I am running the stepped primaries (tork-step) shorties, no cat and 3in catback. Tork-step definitly works, between that and the timing, my camaro has enough bottom end that its hard to keep the tires from busting loose in low gear, granted its a H.O. crate motor but it still has 2.73s.
you've got a mirror of my car... 87sc, 350HO crate, 700r4, 2.73s...

those gears suck don't they?
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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My car is setup for so much torque that the gears aren't really a probelm (plus 350+ HP and 13mpg isn't bad at all), but no posi!!! (as of now only a very select few of those pony's really get to pound the pavement)
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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I've got the hedman shorties without air provisions. You can go wtih these and still keep the air line to the cat if you want. Just have to have a shop weld an O2 bung in.

--87 SC with vortec headed 350. Just made the jump from 2.73 to 3.27 over the holidays. It was worth it, especially with the shift kit. A year ago I had installed a posi unit in my 2.73 rear. That was fun too.

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