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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Loudest?

Just wondering what the loudest and best sounding setup is?
I want something that will make people know when im coming
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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nothing will sound amazing until you upgrade everything else including the motor, but for now the flowmaster 80 series I think sounds the best on a stock motor.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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nothing will sound amazing until you upgrade everything else including the motor, but for now the flowmaster 80 series I think sounds the best on a stock motor.
yeah thats what i was thinking, i was goin to buy one but i figured i should chill and see what else is out there
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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Sounding good is a matter of opinion. You should listen to some soundclips and decide for yourself. If you want it on the loud side, make sure you get a high flow cat too.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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Generally, loud sucks on stock motors, especially LO3s and LG4s. Your car will sound like every red-neck pickup in the area. But, with your stock 2 1/4" exhaust, no muffler is going to get all that loud either, so you'll wind up with a quiet-ish lousy sounding car.

I would highly recommend the 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo catback. It's cheap (about $150), has a better tone than stock, but still sounds very mellow. It's a very deep sound, which is good because it'll filter out a lot of the sounds that make it obvious to others that you've got a stock motor. I've had this exhaust on my thirdgens for years, and it makes them ALL sound good, from a 2.8 right to a 350.

If you can't afford the whole catback, they probably make a muffler that'll replace your stock muffler, and should help the sound a little bit, although for the money, I can't see how you'll go wrong with the Super Turbo catback. By the time you pay an exhaust shop to screw around with putting in just a muffler, your labor charges will probably put the cost almost as high as if you just had him put on the whole catback. Often, it's easier to install a whole catback instead of just the muffler.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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By the time you pay an exhaust shop to screw around with putting in just a muffler, your labor charges will probably put the cost almost as high as if you just had him put on the whole catback. Often, it's easier to install a whole catback instead of just the muffler.
Yeah, i do have enough its just i dont really want to spend a grand an exhaust just yet when i still have a list of things i want to do, thats why i figured a muffler around 200ish would be ideal, and you said 150 for a Dynomax Super catback? (meaning cat? or muffler?)
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by IROCThe5.7L
Sounding good is a matter of opinion. You should listen to some soundclips and decide for yourself. If you want it on the loud side, make sure you get a high flow cat too.
Yeah, i know i have listend to sound clips but people save them at different volumes i may here one exhaust that is LOUD then the same one very very quiet, know what i mean? so its hard to tell
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Oh yeah and i forgot to say, i live in Alberta, Canada where there is no law for cats, i dont have a cat in my car right now so i dont think i should bother putting one in.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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if you can get the dynomax catback for roughly that price i'd jump all over it. And yea, keep the no cat, it'll sound wicked.
I've had dynomax super turbo's on a few different vehicles, a little too quiet for my taste. Sounds nice at idle (but quiet), and high RPM doesn't get loud.

Flowmaster 80 is the "muscle car sound", and you don't need the power to back it up, in order to get the sound.
flip side of that coin is I have a stock muffler, and a beefy engine, sounds nice, in spite of the stock exhaust
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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if you can get the dynomax catback for roughly that price i'd jump all over it. And yea, keep the no cat, it'll sound wicked.
a catback for what price? 150? i dont think that is right....
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Accually $169.95 though Summit Racing
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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yea if you want to mess up your valves go ahead and leave the cat off
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 10:07 PM
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jegs has 40 series flowmaster " the original flowmaster" which is one of if not the loudest one out there for 90 bucks. Can't seem to find a 80 series flowmaster.

If you want loud get a glasspack.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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ever thought about a hooker cat back?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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yea if you want to mess up your valves go ahead and leave the cat off
what kind of goofy reply is that ??? running a full exhaust without a cat isn't going to mess up anything.... now if your running it straight off the maniold then yea your going to have problems..... i haven't had a cat on my car in four years... never had a problem......
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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goofy nothing, you just confirmed it its been proven on my buddys old engine, stock manifolds, no cat, stock muffler, valves were fryed when it was taken apart. i just run one on mine just to be on the safe side.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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pass the crack pipe over here when you're done...
That's absolute . You should be refrained from spreading wrongful knowledge. Cats weren't used before 1975, and you may be shocked to know that the valves didn't spontaneously combust.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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why is it that i always get attacked, i am just saying from personal experience. and from what i have heard.sorry i dont smoke, never have, never will. "You should be refrained from spreading wrongful knowledge"

.Im sorry but moderators are you listening to this, seems like i just throw something out there topic wise and i get beat up every time. we are suppose to be a family here, i didnt say it was true, i just have a reason to doubt, dont take it out on me, tell me what you know, especially you sonix, you have over 3000 posts, you must know something from experience.
ive tried to find out this info before:https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/exha...2750-cats.html

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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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Lets get back on topic guys. That statement is indeed incorrect though.
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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Got my vote for a 40series flowmaster but have fun fabin up the pipes for tips. I'm just dumping mine off the muffler and going for 3" pipe all the way back with a gutted cat. I hope my valves dont fry on my econo 305
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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if you want something loud get the loudmoulth or bullet or powerstick in I pipe of your car and take it to and exhaust shop and the'll fab the rest for like 250-300 cheaper than the catback, and you can have 3 inch to the tips. thats what i did and i have heads,cam,full exhaust with a cat, it is a little raspy up top but it is loud, louder than anything else besides cutout, i would look into the powerstick though it has more of a tone to it and its just as loud.
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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On my wife's formula 350. I put a 3'' prebent intermediate pipe and a 12" long glasspack. Sounds just like a loudmouth. The inter. pipe cost $37 and the glasspack cost $15. And a stick of 2.5 cost $12. I built my own 2.5" offroad y pipe. Kinda loud. But it only cost 70 bucks and took me a day to do it.
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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If they still make the Banks cat back it is loud. Not sure how it will sound on a stock motor though. I swear mine just keeps getting louder.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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Accually $169.95 though Summit Racing
hmm thats tight, but only 2.5", i have a 5.0 HO isnt that stock like 2.6" or 2.7" or something?
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hmm thats tight, but only 2.5", i have a 5.0 HO isnt that stock like 2.6" or 2.7" or something?
Stock on that is probably 2.25 or 2.5.

I don't think any thirdgen got bigger than a 2.5 inch stock exhaust.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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they ain't the cheapest but Spintech has some loudies. I have Moroso spiral flows on a stock 305 mainly because they fit easily, but I've heard worse.
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Stock on that is probably 2.25 or 2.5.

I don't think any thirdgen got bigger than a 2.5 inch stock exhaust.
Oh i thought i read that some where, maybe fake im tryin to find the site again
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With the Dynomax Super Turbo Exhaust system link--
Dynomax Super Turbo Exhaust Systems: WLK-17494 - summitracing.com

Would my HO carbbed 305 sound like this: Putfile - 1989 firebird
Or close to it any ways?
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Ok! one more thing, What is a glasspack? i have listened to a few and LOVE the sound but where can i buy it what is it and pictures please? thanks
K well as i have said b4 things arent as they seem some LOUD and some barely noticeable, any one got a clip to a good one?
I found Danny's on https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/sounds/index.shtml
not to help full, because there all loud i heard the glaaspack and loved itt hen heard stock and couldnt tell a difference, so does this thing doa ny thing? (btw what is it?)


Or should i ditch the idea of dynomax catback(2.5") and just install a flowmaster 80 series instead?

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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dubcity
With the Dynomax Super Turbo Exhaust system link--
Dynomax Super Turbo Exhaust Systems: WLK-17494 - summitracing.com

Would my HO carbbed 305 sound like this: Putfile - 1989 firebird
Or close to it any ways?

Yeah it would sound pretty close.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 02:06 AM
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Yeah it would sound pretty close.
Its really quite clip, any others with that set up?
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Mufflex 4", with a single MagnaFlow stainless race muffler, WOT sound.

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Originally Posted by Jay87Z
Stock on that is probably 2.25 or 2.5.

I don't think any thirdgen got bigger than a 2.5 inch stock exhaust.

Not so....the H.O. cars L69 came with wide mouth cats and 3" I pipes.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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yeah, i thought it was bigger then 2, so id rather not get the dynomax catback, and get hedman headers and Y pipe, would those fit on my stock pipes? and id put a flowmaster 80 series on

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Straight pipe it after the cat.. Sounded pretty good on my old 91 Camaro.


FYI, i have an 80 series Flowmaster sitting in the garage, it's yours for $50(us) + shipping. 3" inlet, dual 2.5 out. good condition.

here are some quick clips of it on mine.. (not stock tho)...

Putfile - Flowmaster 80Cammed 355

Putfile - TA Idle

That's no cat with shorty headers, 3" single pipe...

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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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If you want loudest you want a 40 series flowmaster. Glasspack would sound good but you might make more power with a flowmaster. Glasspacks have very little back pressure and not enough back pressure results in less power.

your best bet is the original flowmaster 40 series.... the loudest flowmaster out there(for the street) and it'll make better power and might even get you some mpg
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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Straight pipe it after the cat.. Sounded pretty good on my old 91 Camaro.
I live in Alberta (canada) no laws for cats here, i dont have one
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 04:38 AM
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If you want loudest you want a 40 series flowmaster. Glasspack would sound good but you might make more power with a flowmaster. Glasspacks have very little back pressure and not enough back pressure results in less power.

your best bet is the original flowmaster 40 series.... the loudest flowmaster out there(for the street) and it'll make better power and might even get you some mpg
you should go and read the thread on backpressure.... backpressure is EVIL... its velocity you want not backpressure... a straight through muffler will make more power then a equal sized baffled muffler like a flowmaster...
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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so all in all hedman headers with hedman y pipe, stock pipeing and flowmaster 80 series, would it work? cuz thats what i want
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 12:30 AM
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Dynomax by far is the best exhuast.

Its not loud at all though, If you want performance go with a dynomax ultraflow

If you want loud go with blowmaster or borla or you can just get headers and a cut out
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dubcity
so all in all hedman headers with hedman y pipe, stock pipeing and flowmaster 80 series, would it work? cuz thats what i want
yea, that'd work. The shop may need an expander to put on the muffler or something, but nothing difficult.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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yea, that'd work. The shop may need an expander to put on the muffler or something, but nothing difficult.
So you really think i could do my own headers? i wouldnt have a prob with it i bet it would just take a while... i was talkin to some people at midsun auto and they said they would rather not do that cuz there not specialist or w.e, so where in calgary is a simple enough place to do everything? like Apollo muffler? (right across the street from where i work )

and sonic, here is a picture of my engine u asked for a while back, I dont know what half the **** in there is, i dont have A/C i think i might used to have it but i have no idea. Just seems theres lot more goin on under my hood then urs sonix.......
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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yea, you can do your own headers it's not hard, just time consuming. You can save a bunch of $$ that way, that you can spend on something else.

Where is midsun? I think my brother dealt with an apollo on mcleod trail... I used a place in the NE, I forget the name now... They were good at the custom piping

do you have the headers yet? may want to get them ceramic coated while you're there... Since you live in the south, it'd be easy to get to a place locally to do it... It'll have the nice "chrome" look, for a good long time, more power, and less heat thrown into other components.

nice! dual snorkel and all! Yea, a lot of that stuff isn't really "needed", hence why my engine bay is so simple. I don't drive my car in the winter, no cruise control, no... bla bla bla... Plain and simple under hood, makes getting to stuff very easy, and finding leaks, etc, easy easy easy!
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From: Bromley south east london, England
Car: 1987 pontiac trans-am
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Originally Posted by dubcity
i dont have A/C i think i might used to have it but i have no idea.
to me it looks like your car either had no a/c or whoever had it before you done a real good job of taking it out. you see on the firewall on the passenger side? well that blower casing says it all. i wish i could get hold of one here in the uk as i have taken my a/c out and im left with a big empty box!! urgh!
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Car: 85 Camaro iroc
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Originally Posted by Sonix
do you have the headers yet? may want to get them ceramic coated while you're there... Since you live in the south, it'd be easy to get to a place locally to do it... It'll have the nice "chrome" look, for a good long time, more power, and less heat thrown into other components.
Yeah, no i havent bought the headers yet, im still trying to figure what im goin to do, will mopac install? (if i chose to?) Im asking Unlimited Performance for a qoute on the full system i want because they carrry it all and just might have them install if it isnt to much, ceramic coated? how much does that cost? can they do it on the spot or does it have to take a while?
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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Car: 1987 Iroc Z28
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Transmission: Beefed up T5
Axle/Gears: Aussie 3.45's
Accentuate what you got.

If you have a stock 305, throw on a Flowmaster and it will sound like a louder tingy stock 305.

Upgrade the headers, heads,internals, cam, intake, center pipe (etc etc).....

And it will sound like a Hungry Beast of War through a flow.......

(P.S...F*ck the cat and straight-pipe it).

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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by freestylzz
Accentuate what you got.

If you have a stock 305, throw on a Flowmaster and it will sound like a louder tingy stock 305.

Upgrade the headers, heads,internals, cam, intake, center pipe (etc etc).....

And it will sound like a Hungry Beast of War through a flow.......

(P.S...F*ck the cat and straight-pipe it).
i dont have a cat
yea im getting a 80 series with hedman headers and y-pipe and if i dont like then sound then ill keep changing stuff till i get what i want
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Stick with the Flow buddy....

If you have a Corvette or Ferrari, have a pocketfull of cash you want to pee away your cash, and want to sound like Grandpa driving down a neighbourhood road on a Sunday morning, go with the Borla...

If you want to waste your money and wonder why your muff is choked up, buy a Dynomax (lol)...

You want solid reliable "bark", go Flow.....

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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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Car: 1985 Z28 camaro
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i have the flowmaster and i love the sound... i have the stock pluming all the way back until the flowmaster. very easy to install and sounds great. i am thinking about switching to glass packs once i get my collector license plates... witch lets me not have to pass E-check, so i can do what ever i want to the engine/ exaust. good luck!
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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I am goin with flow the 80 series
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