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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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Linky no worky...
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Let me be the first to say nice shoes!
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and it sounds like a 305TBI with no muffler...
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That sounds pretty good. I really like the way its quiet at the low RPMs but sounds like it has ***** when you get on it. Almost sounds quieter than a flowmaster at idle.

Does he have sidepipes on either side? If so, is it true duals, or off of a y-pipe? Is there a catalytic?
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Let me be the first to say nice shoes!
my bro wants to be a cowboy

Originally Posted by slow_90firebird
That sounds pretty good. I really like the way its quiet at the low RPMs but sounds like it has ***** when you get on it. Almost sounds quieter than a flowmaster at idle.

Does he have sidepipes on either side? If so, is it true duals, or off of a y-pipe? Is there a catalytic?
off of a ypipe after the cat
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So after the cat, it splits into 2 pipes again? And then goes out either side of the car?
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OMG the more I listen to the video, the more I want that sound. It is so f****n sweet!

His motor cant be stock, can it? It has to have like a cam and headers or something?

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I like... I was thinkin of dumping my 'bird's in that position if I ever get around to re-doing the exhaust... except with some custom/ homemade rectangular tubing...
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Re: My bro's catback sidepipes no muffler

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So after the cat, it splits into 2 pipes again? And then goes out either side of the car?
exactly

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His motor cant be stock, can it? It has to have like a cam and headers or something?
stock. he's building a 327
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Sounds pretty good, If I ever did a V8 swap, I think I'd go with the NASCAR style exhaust exit, they sell them at a Ford swap meet in Columbus Ohio for like 50-100$. BTW nice boots..
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its not quite what i call side pipes,as its more of a side exit pipe. i thought we goin to see some hooker style side pipes.
but that is ok. i like the way it sounds. nice mean growl to it. no tell him to throw a cam in that thing and it will sound like a nascar.
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See everybody says straight pipes are "r e d n e c k" but I think they sound great on just about anything! Even the ***** LO3
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You people say R-ed-neck like its a bad thing? & why the hell is that word bleeped out? I mean its not likes its a race of people or anything... I's be confused, I think I'll go back in the trailer & bang my sister some more... J/K of course.

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Old Mar 3, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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I dont think its a bad thing ... I usually here it a few times a day driving around town. So I guess I am one too. Oh and some people call my car the white-trash-mobile.

Either way, I cant write it like this, because it will look like *******. I think it might be a way to discourage the mustang and honda people from making bullshit accounts and trying to trash talk about thirdgens. M-ullet is bleeped out too.
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Wow... I knew that was why you typed it... I've actually had that happen before in another post.. I was replying to a guy that fits what you described talking about our trailer park cars etc... But he was less literate than a kid on a short bus. & I forgot & posted it with out the spacing 1st then edited it. but yea, I have a Bronco & a Scout with no engine in the back yard & a garage filled with random parts & a broken four wheeler... I'm almost perfect, my house is on blocks with window units, too bad it didn't come here on wheels... & I guess I need to start growing out that ****** soon...
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All blow ..... No GO
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All blow ..... No GO
ehh, my LO3 goes pretty good. Sure its not super fast or anything, but it gets me around town fine.

And I imagine with straight pipes, it would be quite a bit faster than the stock 2.25" exhaust.
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And I imagine with straight pipes, it would be quite a bit faster than the stock 2.25" exhaust.
No, not really. A 16 second car will not be helped by a free flowing exhaust as much as something that really needs the flow. Maybe you'd gain a couple tenths.

I don't understand why people want to make a slow car, loud. If you don't have the power to back it up, you're just annoying everyone.
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its not quite what i call side pipes,as its more of a side exit pipe.
aaahh i see and i would agree
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aaahh i see and i would agree
do they even make a side pipe like the old vettes had. that kind of side pipe would look killer on a formy or a non spoiler kit car.
lile i said though. i do like the sound of it. and i am not of southern decent,being itailian and all. so thats not that type of thing.
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No, not really. A 16 second car will not be helped by a free flowing exhaust as much as something that really needs the flow. Maybe you'd gain a couple tenths.

I don't understand why people want to make a slow car, loud. If you don't have the power to back it up, you're just annoying everyone.
Exactly its just noise. Its as bad or just the same as a stock civic putting a loud muffler on it. Yet people on here will bash on them. Its just as bad...a 305TBI has no sound other then the "loud v8 that sounds like a beat up truck". Some cars just don't sound good with exhaust(or lack there of).

Fast car that is quiet > Slow car thats loud
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slow or not. every v-8 motor small and large has the American right to sound nice.
its stupid a$$ kids with these fvkin coffee cans and 2500. rims on a 500. P.O.S that makes me want to slap them and say WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

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A loud slow V8 is just as bad as the ric ers. Every bit. No excuse.
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Yeah, civics dont really bother me at all. I just dont think they sound good.
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A loud slow V8 is just as bad as the ric ers. Every bit. No excuse.
so an american car is now a ri cer thats what ur sayin?
emmissions were the bullet that killed h/p. even the 76 vettes got down to 170 h/p. so no one should even put a nice exhaust on a old vette b/c its got no power??
sorry man thats b/s. a civic with 120 h/p has no buisness with an exhaust. a v-8 that through no fault of its own,has lost power from one year to another always deserves a good exhaust. everyone has to start somewhere when modding a car. 9 times out of 10 its the intake and exhaust.
so don't be a hater.
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I'm saying that blasting loud 16+ second V8s have no business being that loud. That is honda 1/4 mile territory. So being that slow and being that loud puts you in the same boat w/ the 120hp fart cars. Sorry!
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So you are saying that, just because some people cant afford fast cars, means we shouldnt be allowed to have loud exhaust to hear out motor?

What about all the El Camino's and K10 pickups you see driving around with the 305, and open cherry bombs or something? Nobody has a problem with those.

As a matter of fact, there was a Caprice Wagon at my neighbors house today with straight pipes, and it sounded real good. I dont know what motors those have though. It had the front end that looks like the Impala SS, so I am guessing LT1.
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LOLOL have fun guys.
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Originally Posted by ws6blackhawk88
so an american car is now a ri cer thats what ur sayin?
emmissions were the bullet that killed h/p. even the 76 vettes got down to 170 h/p. so no one should even put a nice exhaust on a old vette b/c its got no power??
sorry man thats b/s. a civic with 120 h/p has no buisness with an exhaust. a v-8 that through no fault of its own,has lost power from one year to another always deserves a good exhaust. everyone has to start somewhere when modding a car. 9 times out of 10 its the intake and exhaust.
so don't be a hater.
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So you are saying that, just because some people cant afford fast cars, means we shouldnt be allowed to have loud exhaust to hear out motor?

What about all the El Camino's and K10 pickups you see driving around with the 305, and open cherry bombs or something? Nobody has a problem with those.

As a matter of fact, there was a Caprice Wagon at my neighbors house today with straight pipes, and it sounded real good. I dont know what motors those have though. It had the front end that looks like the Impala SS, so I am guessing LT1.
and No.

The fact is this is not a "nice exhaust system" he hacked off the muffler. Yes a decent catback with a name brand muffler sounds decent and its not "no muffler loud".

LT1s and 305s are different motors therefore they will sound different. LT1s pull and push air a lot quicker then a 305 they are naturally going to sound a little more tuned then a 305. I don't want to get into all that, point is:

No muffler on a stock 305TBI is just the same as a stock honda civic with a fart can. Both loud and both slow.
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Amen.

PS Stevo, I am also Steve, and also in Springfield VA. Are you me?
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and No.

The fact is this is not a "nice exhaust system" he hacked off the muffler. Yes a decent catback with a name brand muffler sounds decent and its not "no muffler loud".

LT1s and 305s are different motors therefore they will sound different. LT1s pull and push air a lot quicker then a 305 they are naturally going to sound a little more tuned then a 305. I don't want to get into all that, point is:

No muffler on a stock 305TBI is just the same as a stock honda civic with a fart can. Both loud and both slow.
i see ur point. its the high pitch sound of a car with no muffler
that u both hate.but for me, i like calis' bros side exit. but i like a nascar sound. so everyone is diff and thats fine.
but that does not mean that he/she should not have a high flowing exhaust. with a nice catback. b/c u did bassically say that no 305 should not have a performance exhaust of any kind. do u care to recant that?
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Im pretty sure you guys wouldnt care if you put a hooker aerochamber on or something, but then the car is no louder than stock.
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I think the old saying of "If its too loud, you're too old" comes to use here... There is a difference between slow & bad sounding. I've heard V8s that sound like tractors thanks to some dome imbred kid's homebuilt muffler & too much cam on a junk smog era chevy long block (with heads that choke a Briggs & Stratton)... & I drove my firebird to work for a few days with an open Y-pipe... It was stupid loud, but still had a good sound, just too much volume. I've also run my Bronco open headered with a badass sounding roller motor, THAT WAS STUPER LOUD!!! It was a beautiful sound but left your ears ringing in no time... The people down the street with sprint cars were impressed.

But overall most any V8 (except the before-mentioned with a non-branching family tree) just seems to have the right tone almost no matter what you do to the exhaust (if you can handle the volume.) But I don't think I've ever heard a 6 or 4-cyl. sound worth a s**t at any volume with any kind of exhaust... regardless of brand or country of orgin.
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I'm not going to argue whether or not you should put performance exhaust on TBI 305s or not. What I will say is that there is no reason to put open pipes or any ultra loud exhaust on any car. What makes it ok to put pipes on your vehicle so loud that it wakes the neighbors up every time you come home after 9? If you really want a stupid loud car invest some money and install a remote triggered dump for when your out in the middle of nowhere and have nobody to defen but yourself. I mean theres no advantage to those ultra loud pipes. MY 88 runs a high 12 with a 355 breathing through hooker shorties and a 3" flowmaster.
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That's it, I'm buying a house down the road from you & putting some nice 4 inch dual straight pipes on my Chevy & pulling the pipes off the Bronco's headers. Then watch you do this as I drive by You'll learn to like it.

Actually nevermind on that, its too cold up there... & its all good as long as it includes a V8 twisting the crap outta the rear tires.

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Re: My bro's catback sidepipes no muffler

Originally Posted by WIll36
I'm not going to argue whether or not you should put performance exhaust on TBI 305s or not. What I will say is that there is no reason to put open pipes or any ultra loud exhaust on any car. What makes it ok to put pipes on your vehicle so loud that it wakes the neighbors up every time you come home after 9? If you really want a stupid loud car invest some money and install a remote triggered dump for when your out in the middle of nowhere and have nobody to defen but yourself. I mean theres no advantage to those ultra loud pipes. MY 88 runs a high 12 with a 355 breathing through hooker shorties and a 3" flowmaster.
sounds like u have a loud exhaust to me.
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Re: My bro's catback sidepipes no muffler

If you think all 4cyl sound like crap you've only heard the fartcanned civics. Try a real sports car with a real 4cyl. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSJ8PpnD4Zw. Or listen to an Ariel Atom. Cars that would destroy just about everything on a track, the 4cyl's were chosen because its a small, lightweight trackday cars. Not a 200mph+ hypercar. Easy to outrun in a straight line, but not so easy on a circuit.

A Truck/RV cammed motor sounds like crap with an open exhaust system. Even an LT1 sounds like crap open exhaust with manifolds. I can see it at the track when every 10th counts, but on the street, use a muffler. I like a V8 as much as any other F-body fan, but no exhaust sounds like crap.

I drove my 355 once straight out of the ypipe (on the way to the shop to get it fixed) and it was terrible. It was just loud, no real noise at all. I had a Stealthram, LP 211/219 cam, hooker 2055 headers and it was nasty (not in a good way either). I was so happy to get a cat-back on the car, then out sounded nice.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Re: My bro's catback sidepipes no muffler

ur talkin apples and oranges with the elise type sports cars. yes they are imports,but they are real import sports cars. u can't compare the 2 imo.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Re: My bro's catback sidepipes no muffler

Originally Posted by ws6blackhawk88
ur talkin apples and oranges with the elise type sports cars. yes they are imports,but they are real import sports cars. u can't compare the 2 imo.
They use Toyota and Honda engines, engines commonly found in celicas and civics. Its what a mildly tuned inline4 should sound like. The Elise uses a Toyota engine, and the Ariel Atom a Honda.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Re: My bro's catback sidepipes no muffler

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They use Toyota and Honda engines, engines commonly found in celicas and civics. Its what a mildly tuned inline4 should sound like. The Elise uses a Toyota engine, and the Ariel Atom a Honda.
that maybe so but the internals are not the same. if they were they would be putting out the same h/p and torq as the latter. stroke and compression play alot in the sound of any motor. i don't know for sure but i would think that the elise has a diff compr and stroke than their cheaper counterparts.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ws6blackhawk88
that maybe so but the internals are not the same. if they were they would be putting out the same h/p and torq as the latter. stroke and compression play alot in the sound of any motor. i don't know for sure but i would think that the elise has a diff compr and stroke than their cheaper counterparts.
Most Exiges make 190hp, thats less than most new Toyota 4 bangers. Elise's are significantly less. The Lotus Exige S is supercharged to 240hp, easily attainable by a stock bottom end car. A SRT-4 made more power. A Ariel Atom only comes with 300hp if you get the supercharged version. The internals are the same. Otherwise an Atom has maybe 200hp.

Infact, the newer Ariel Atoms are coming with the Ecotec 2.0L either n/a or Supercharged to 300hp.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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Re: My bro's catback sidepipes no muffler

Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA
Most Exiges make 190hp, thats less than most new Toyota 4 bangers. Elise's are significantly less. The Lotus Exige S is supercharged to 240hp, easily attainable by a stock bottom end car. A SRT-4 made more power. A Ariel Atom only comes with 300hp if you get the supercharged version. The internals are the same. Otherwise an Atom has maybe 200hp.

Infact, the newer Ariel Atoms are coming with the Ecotec 2.0L either n/a or Supercharged to 300hp.
how did we go from what an exhaust sounds like to h/p ratings on cars wich i personnaly could give two ***** about.

the point is that any v-8 no matter what cubes it has will always sound better than an import that u see on the street everyday. lotus and other 4cy exotics are not on the roads in mad production. and to be honest that u-tube video of the elise sounds like anyother coffee can. imo.

some poeple like that sound and others don't. i don't. u do. thats cool. but no 4cy will sound better than any v-8. period. that is also my opinion. some guys will go over board in loudness, i'll admit that. but it still sounds better.

so lets get off this. i'm done. its obvious that we won't agree. and thats fine.
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I also agree that any V8 will sound better than any other motor. Well, the Cummins 6cyl diesel is up there, but that another story. Gas engines, v8 sounds best. Even if its an LG4.

I have heard even vipers, and that W-12 volkswagen. Both sounded cool, like I wanna see that motor cool, but they didnt sound good like a V8.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Well, just trying to figure out what to say, I figured it out, A real car guy can appreciate any car, no matter country of origin or how many cylinders it has, if it's fast or looks cool, does that really matter? I have had some 4cyl cars that would spank my T/A, I just love all cars, I think all you idiots that cant see that, need to open your eyes, and quit looking at your crappy rusted out car. Sorry. I still love my DOHC 4 cyl. fast, light high revving and fun. Driving this T/A that will barely go up to 4500 RPM's is weird, but, it's a cool car.
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Re: My bro's catback sidepipes no muffler

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Well, just trying to figure out what to say, I figured it out, A real car guy can appreciate any car, no matter country of origin or how many cylinders it has, if it's fast or looks cool, does that really matter? I have had some 4cyl cars that would spank my T/A, I just love all cars, I think all you idiots that cant see that, need to open your eyes, and quit looking at your crappy rusted out car. Sorry. I still love my DOHC 4 cyl. fast, light high revving and fun. Driving this T/A that will barely go up to 4500 RPM's is weird, but, it's a cool car.
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I do appreciate all cars, I just appreciate V8's more. The chevy small block (and its distinctive sound) carries alot of history with it. Memorys of a time before we as a country whored ourselves out the the japs, after they bombed pearl harbor on us.


As for the origional poster's exhaust being junk - it isnt just a "hacked off muffler." Its a really nice custom bent system with welds and hangers.
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Old Mar 7, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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Sounds a lot like my setup actually. It probably should, it's a stock 305 TBI with an X-pipe. The Y-pipe would function somewhat as an x-pipe... And I've got spiralflow "mufflers" on it... Definitely the same kind of lame TBI idle, lol.

Sounds good, but I like mine more. No mufflers is just a little too ******* for me, though.
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Re: My bro's catback sidepipes no muffler

Originally Posted by slow_90firebird
I do appreciate all cars, I just appreciate V8's more. The chevy small block (and its distinctive sound) carries alot of history with it. Memorys of a time before we as a country whored ourselves out the the japs, after they bombed pearl harbor on us.


As for the origional poster's exhaust being junk - it isnt just a "hacked off muffler." Its a really nice custom bent system with welds and hangers.
well said.
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 06:24 AM
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haha you guys can knock on the 305 all ya want two my car sounds fuc**** bitc*** and looks out standing and its a camaro, a camaro so get your heads out of your as* and let us 305 owners brag a bit huh?
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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Re: My bro's catback sidepipes no muffler

Originally Posted by Travis odell
haha you guys can knock on the 305 all ya want two my car sounds fuc**** bitc*** and looks out standing and its a camaro, a camaro so get your heads out of your as* and let us 305 owners brag a bit huh?
what exhaust do u have?

i'm still trying to decide wich catback i want. sound clips would be appreciated.
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