Exhaust Post your questions and suggestions about stock or aftermarket exhaust setups. Third Gen exhaust sound files and videos!

Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 25, 2013 | 08:15 PM
  #1  
FIRECHICKEN's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 816
Likes: 0
From: Mechanicsburg, PA
Car: '89 Formula 350
Engine: 5.7L L98 TPI
Transmission: 700-R4 Automatic
Axle/Gears: 7.5 disc posi 3.23
Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

Ok so I'm using some schedule 10 stainless pipe and some 3/8" thick header flanges.
The inside diameter of the pipe is actually 1.625" and outside diameter is 1.90"

So..... The pipe is round and the ports on the head are retangular (I think)..

I'm wondering if I should try to shape the stainless pipe to the port design or just get a round header flange to weld to? Will it affect flow that much??

Probably going to get a 1 3/4 port flange so I can weld from the inside then port match a little
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2013 | 08:39 PM
  #2  
Orr89RocZ's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

Shaping might be hard to do with sch 10. Try if you can but it wont hurt flow much if you made round to square. Exhaust is high pressure fast flow and will expel regardless of shape. Most of the flow comes out the center of the port anyway so minor mismatch doesnt hurt. In fact a small step at the flange to head makes for a nice anti reversion step
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2013 | 03:09 PM
  #3  
watajob's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 1,410
Likes: 2
From: Location, Location!
Car: 92 T/A 'vert
Engine: Mild .040 over L98 4 bolt mains
Transmission: Mostly stock 700R4, 2600 Vigilante
Axle/Gears: LS1 3.42
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

I'm thinkin' that a wall that thick is gonna' make them heavier than they need to be and a 1.90" OD is gonna' make life miserable when choosing/installing bolts.
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2013 | 03:52 PM
  #4  
lunati397's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: Clovis NM
Car: 2012 F350 lariot/1991 Camaro RS
Engine: Powerstroke/6.0
Transmission: 6R100/4L80e
Axle/Gears: 3.73/3.42
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

you better off getting a header kit from speedway it comes with all the bends and flanges

that pipe is way to thick and not much better than stock and the heat soak will be rediculous makeing your whole engine bay hotter
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2013 | 04:22 PM
  #5  
FIRECHICKEN's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 816
Likes: 0
From: Mechanicsburg, PA
Car: '89 Formula 350
Engine: 5.7L L98 TPI
Transmission: 700-R4 Automatic
Axle/Gears: 7.5 disc posi 3.23
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

Well... The manifold needs to support the weight of a turbo and be able to handle the heat without cracking like egg. I agree the bolts are gonna be a bitch.
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2013 | 04:28 PM
  #6  
Orr89RocZ's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,895
Likes: 429
From: Pittsburgh PA
Car: 89 Iroc-z
Engine: 555 BBC Turbo
Transmission: TH400
Axle/Gears: MWC 9” 3.00
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

I didnt even consider bolts. I have 1.75" primaries 16ga and its close to the bolts. Probably need to shape the tubes and grind for clearance at 1.9"
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2013 | 04:40 PM
  #7  
lunati397's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 773
Likes: 0
From: Clovis NM
Car: 2012 F350 lariot/1991 Camaro RS
Engine: Powerstroke/6.0
Transmission: 6R100/4L80e
Axle/Gears: 3.73/3.42
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

regular header kits can support a turbo weight unless you are using S480s and get better flow
Reply
Old Jun 26, 2013 | 09:01 PM
  #8  
FIRECHICKEN's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 816
Likes: 0
From: Mechanicsburg, PA
Car: '89 Formula 350
Engine: 5.7L L98 TPI
Transmission: 700-R4 Automatic
Axle/Gears: 7.5 disc posi 3.23
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

From what I hear regular header kids will sag and crack eventually from the heat and stress of the weight of the turbo. I do not want to have to make these three times.
I think what I will do is shape a piece of inch and a half pipe to the rectangular port before I make the turn with the 90° elbows

I forgot to mention that I making a long style manifold. An idea I got from an article about eight second Turbo LS1 Camaro. That team used stainless sch10 log manifolds.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2013 | 12:09 AM
  #9  
watajob's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 1,410
Likes: 2
From: Location, Location!
Car: 92 T/A 'vert
Engine: Mild .040 over L98 4 bolt mains
Transmission: Mostly stock 700R4, 2600 Vigilante
Axle/Gears: LS1 3.42
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

Originally Posted by Orr89RocZ
I didnt even consider bolts. I have 1.75" primaries 16ga and its close to the bolts. Probably need to shape the tubes and grind for clearance at 1.9"
Yeah, I had to contact Don for a specific ARP PN for his headers and it was still challenging.
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2013 | 02:49 PM
  #10  
ghost91's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 350
Likes: 1
From: Woodbridge, New Jersey
Car: 1991 Camaro Z28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2.73
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

The ARP 5/16 heads are probably your best option for bolts. Good luck still... Sounds like its gonna be a PITA
Reply
Old Jun 27, 2013 | 04:19 PM
  #11  
Twin_Turbo's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,364
Likes: 51
From: Enschede, Netherlands
Car: 82 TA 87 IZ L98 88 IZ LB9 88 IZ L98
Engine: 5.7TBI 5,7TPI 5.0TPI, 5,7TPI
Transmission: T5, 700R4, T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.27, 3.45, 3.27
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

best solution is to get some stahl pattern adapters, bolt them on and build your headers with the stahl patterned flanges. No more bolt issues
Reply
Old Jun 29, 2013 | 03:17 PM
  #12  
watajob's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 1,410
Likes: 2
From: Location, Location!
Car: 92 T/A 'vert
Engine: Mild .040 over L98 4 bolt mains
Transmission: Mostly stock 700R4, 2600 Vigilante
Axle/Gears: LS1 3.42
Re: Making a custom header and need fabrication advice.

Originally Posted by ghost91
The ARP 5/16 heads are probably your best option for bolts. Good luck still... Sounds like its gonna be a PITA
That's the ones!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Jeremys87
Electronics
16
Jul 14, 2022 09:08 PM
Nervous2
LSX and LTX Parts
8
Mar 10, 2016 09:49 PM
sweet_87_iroc
Camaros for Sale
5
Sep 25, 2015 10:01 PM
IROCThe5.7L
DIY PROM
1
Aug 10, 2015 11:24 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:36 AM.