shitbox1988

Good day everyone,

To start my first post I would like to thank the third gen community for what it is, I found many answers to my questions as well as learning about my car.

Today I am writing about the Summit/JEGS Long tube headers (rebranded Flowtechs really : Part no. Summit-G9001) since I didn't find any threads talking about them, I thought I'd speak from experience. I bought them because they were very cheap (about 180$ CAD, 'cause I'm from Canada eh).

Quality : I mean... the welds look good, the flange is thick and straight, thus I have nothing bad to say about the build quality. They're sold with gaskets, studs and 2.5'' reducers

Fitment : The driver side header slid right in without any ''massaging'', I only had to unscrew the oil filter because it was in the way. On the other hand, the passenger side header made me regret my purchase. Why? because I had to bang every tube to a point where if you look at it, you could see the tubes are completely flat on the outside. They look beat up and it doesn't look good in the engine bay, if only I cared about how it looks lol. I had to remove the starter as well, but surprisingly clearance was good and I will eventually wrap it to prevent any heat soaking. The most annoying thing about it is that it hits the subframe, which like a dumb *** I had to bang to make some room. Its not a showcar or anything and I don't think it hurt the structural integrity of the car so I thought what the hell. Now the last problem about them, The collector flange comes out very close to the transmission cross member (700R4). I had to cut the collector to shorten it, forcing me to clamp on the exhaust piping.

Conclusion : Would I buy these again for any car other than a thirdgen? Absolutely, for the price they are great headers, but as far as fitment is a concern, they are not meant to be installed on Fbodys.

I'd like to know if any of you guys had a similar experience. Pictures are more than welcome, I will upload some myself when I get the chance.

Cheers

WildCard600

Thank you for the review. I was actually looking at a set of these, but beating them into submission to fit isn't going to work for me, lol.

Drew

iTrader: (58)

What usually kills them is the primaries. Want to say they're under 1.5" primaries.

GeneralDisorder

iTrader: (1)

Between the beating and flattening of the tubes and them likely being less than 1.5" ID, I don't see the benefit of the long tubes over a set of the Dyno Don shorties with 1.75 primaries. Add in the ground clearance issues..... doubt you would see any gain from the effort.

My Dyno Don headers and y-pipe required no massaging of any kind. I wouldn't call them easy for a novice to install (hard to say since I'm no novice myself), but once installed they fit like a glove.

GD

shitbox1988

I agree. But one thing is sure, they'll never be as restrictive as the factory Y-pipe, this thing is horrible. The Summit headers are 1 5/8 and after doing some research I found that beating up some tubes doesn't hurt the flow capabilities of the header (as seen on Engine Masters). I can't wait to test drive the car to actually feel any difference in power.

Cheers

GeneralDisorder

iTrader: (1)

Yes the factory Y pipe was definitely designed to be manufactured as quickly and cheaply as possible with little regard to performance.

The engineers and the bean counters know that performance enthusiasts are going to swap the exhaust, so to an extent they don't bother dialing that stuff in. Good enough is cheaper and the vast majority of buyers aren't going to care. It's also something enthusiasts can upgrade that has no real consequences to the engine longevity, etc and it makes them feel good about making the car their own. To the extent that it creates a community around your product you want enthusiasts to own them and make them their own. The design decisions aren't for no reason.

GD