The Future in Cold Air Induction!!
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The Future in Cold Air Induction!!
check out this space-age technology!!

this has probably been here before, but i just found it the other day and laughed my *** off, maybe peed a little too...

this has probably been here before, but i just found it the other day and laughed my *** off, maybe peed a little too...
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i figured the "string" was to hold the thing to the roof, so i guess you cant open the windows or it will fly away
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I'm know the AC blower motor can't supply 100% of the air an engine needed, but could it supply enough, if it was merged with a normal intake, to help reduce the incoming air temp, the engine is seeing? Getting it before the IAT sensor of course, for those of us who longer have it mounted under the bottom of the HOT aluminum plenum. How much hp does the AC REALLY use? 5hp? 20hp? Could it be of benefit, to offset the power drain?
Just like, since the AC condenser line gets cold enough to form condensation, could your fuel line be wrapped around it, to be of any benefit?
I know several people will get a laugh out of these ideas, but so are airfoils. They are only worth what? 2hp? But, people have them.
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why bother with a little ac blower when you could strap a gas leaf blower to the thing
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I was more or less meaning the temp drop.
Hmmm...Leaf blower, plumbed into the fuel line, using the AC system as a air souce. More pressure, lower temps.
but, if it works, it works. People spend a crap-load of $, to get 10 hp gains, from "proven" aftermarket parts. Headers aren't worth a WHOLE lot, but people spend $400+ all day on those.
It is the little things that add up in the end.
Hmmm...Leaf blower, plumbed into the fuel line, using the AC system as a air souce. More pressure, lower temps.
but, if it works, it works. People spend a crap-load of $, to get 10 hp gains, from "proven" aftermarket parts. Headers aren't worth a WHOLE lot, but people spend $400+ all day on those.It is the little things that add up in the end.
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Leaf blower, I love it................14's here I come.........................Well seriously, if it werent for people having wild ideas like that we would never get nothing new.........hmmm leaf blower.......14's here I come, oh hell I am repeating myself.......LOL.......
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http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...ad23ca9564.htm
watch the whole thing LMFAO
watch the whole thing LMFAO
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Leaf blower, I love it................14's here I come.........................Well seriously, if it werent for people having wild ideas like that we would never get nothing new.........hmmm leaf blower.......14's here I come, oh hell I am repeating myself.......LOL.......
Nowm if they are hitting the same numbers, with HALF the cylinders...
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I've actually wondered about that...
I'm know the AC blower motor can't supply 100% of the air an engine needed, but could it supply enough, if it was merged with a normal intake, to help reduce the incoming air temp, the engine is seeing? Getting it before the IAT sensor of course, for those of us who longer have it mounted under the bottom of the HOT aluminum plenum. How much hp does the AC REALLY use? 5hp? 20hp? Could it be of benefit, to offset the power drain?
Just like, since the AC condenser line gets cold enough to form condensation, could your fuel line be wrapped around it, to be of any benefit?
I know several people will get a laugh out of these ideas, but so are airfoils. They are only worth what? 2hp? But, people have them.
I'm know the AC blower motor can't supply 100% of the air an engine needed, but could it supply enough, if it was merged with a normal intake, to help reduce the incoming air temp, the engine is seeing? Getting it before the IAT sensor of course, for those of us who longer have it mounted under the bottom of the HOT aluminum plenum. How much hp does the AC REALLY use? 5hp? 20hp? Could it be of benefit, to offset the power drain?
Just like, since the AC condenser line gets cold enough to form condensation, could your fuel line be wrapped around it, to be of any benefit?
I know several people will get a laugh out of these ideas, but so are airfoils. They are only worth what? 2hp? But, people have them.
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South Carolina isn't the south...
...Central Texas (where I am, is south!
)
I guess I could find a thermometer, to measure the temp of my AC. The question is, would it REALLY be of benefit?
As far as giving up your AC, maybe the ducting could have a control valve. Off, its normal AC, on, it is directed to the engine? In any case, it would at least lower the incoming temp of the air. I know my GTA has a noticeable increase in hp, during 40 degree weather (about as cold as it gets here regularly) as compared to the 100+ degree days during Summer.
...Central Texas (where I am, is south!
)I guess I could find a thermometer, to measure the temp of my AC. The question is, would it REALLY be of benefit?
As far as giving up your AC, maybe the ducting could have a control valve. Off, its normal AC, on, it is directed to the engine? In any case, it would at least lower the incoming temp of the air. I know my GTA has a noticeable increase in hp, during 40 degree weather (about as cold as it gets here regularly) as compared to the 100+ degree days during Summer.
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http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...ad23ca9564.htm
watch the whole thing LMFAO
watch the whole thing LMFAO
holy sh#t i cant stop laughing!!
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South Carolina isn't the south...
...Central Texas (where I am, is south!
)
I guess I could find a thermometer, to measure the temp of my AC. The question is, would it REALLY be of benefit?
As far as giving up your AC, maybe the ducting could have a control valve. Off, its normal AC, on, it is directed to the engine? In any case, it would at least lower the incoming temp of the air. I know my GTA has a noticeable increase in hp, during 40 degree weather (about as cold as it gets here regularly) as compared to the 100+ degree days during Summer.
...Central Texas (where I am, is south!
)I guess I could find a thermometer, to measure the temp of my AC. The question is, would it REALLY be of benefit?
As far as giving up your AC, maybe the ducting could have a control valve. Off, its normal AC, on, it is directed to the engine? In any case, it would at least lower the incoming temp of the air. I know my GTA has a noticeable increase in hp, during 40 degree weather (about as cold as it gets here regularly) as compared to the 100+ degree days during Summer.
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I have thought about making a cold air set-up that is a tube that runs through a a compartment that has a cap that could be taken off so that i could put dry ice in it so that it would cool the pipe itself and hopefully the incoming air also and that compartment would not allow that fumes from that dry ice to get in the motor
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and to help harness all that new-found power

need I say more...

need I say more...
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Re: The Future in Cold Air Induction!!
hahaha i never thought that would actually work, just figured it would bog from way too much air.
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Re: The Future in Cold Air Induction!!
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I have thought about making a cold air set-up that is a tube that runs through a a compartment that has a cap that could be taken off so that i could put dry ice in it so that it would cool the pipe itself and hopefully the incoming air also and that compartment would not allow that fumes from that dry ice to get in the motor
"If the kids place a lit candle on the table, they can then "pour" the CO2 gas from their styrofoam cup onto the flame. It should go out. This is evidence that you have a gas, heavier than air, and that it is a gas which does not provide oxygen for combustion. CO2 fire extinguishers are quite common."
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Re: The Future in Cold Air Induction!!
my buddies and i actually tried the leaf blower set up on his 90something shadow 3.0 in a walmart parking lot...we ziptied it under the hood the the radiator mounts or i dont remember and drove it around the parking lot, didnt work and i finally know why..it was just blowing hot air cuz of the low speeds and no incoming air to the leaf blower. maybe we can do it again with alittle ram air!!??
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Re: The Future in Cold Air Induction!!
a friend and i were trying to figure out a novel way to make a cold air system like coiling a pipe around the intake tubing that runs nitrogen through it to cool the incoming air, but that just wouldn't be safe under the hood of a car . at least as far as i know . or running an intercooler with the cryo system that sprays the co2 onto the intercooler to cool the air, but without any kind of a supercharger or turbocharger. but then that would just be a waste, if you have an intercooler why not add a supercharger or turbo.
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Re: The Future in Cold Air Induction!!
No the pipe would run through a compartment that had the dry ice in it in an attemt to cool down the pipe and incoming air but not get the crap from the ice
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Re: The Future in Cold Air Induction!!
Nice.... "Air Intake Blower produces 250CFM of forced air into your intake." Maybe with 3 of them, I can achieve the stock amount of intake my car needs...
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