not sure if this fits in this category but im wondering if anyone has done a full drivetrain swap plus engine and front suspension from a corvette to a 3rd gen camaro. i want to do this but not sure what it takes thanks in advance

 

This thread covers from behind the trans back:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...uspension.html

That should give you a great start.

 

someone has done the rear, yellow twin turbo camaro...lotsa custom fab work, a few ppl have done the vet style front suspension but theres even more fab work...not worth it unless u wanna prove a point etc

 

What year corvette are you robbing?

 

In for c6 drivetrain swap.

 

Being someone who owned a 2nd gen, number of thirdgens, then a corvette, then went to a 2nd gen.

If you want a corvette buy one. I like the way thirdgens drive better than a corvette. Just me. The vette stopped better. Sure it will probably corner better with the wider tires (275/40/17), yadda yadda. I didn't like it.

A thirdgen is a nice car. Some design flaws for sure, but generally speaking I'd stay with what you have.

-- Joe

 

Thats never been done before. The only corvette swaps were for C4 rears into our cars. Why even bother with anything from the trans forward? At that point, you're better off just buying a C6 or a new 5th gen Camaro because its pretty much a Corvette.

 

curious is the c5/c6 suspension would work out? arent the c5/c6 vettes much wider than 3rd gens, especially the c6? Just thinking out loud here.

 

They are. Figuratively speaking, you could park our cars between the wheel wells of the C6 they are that much wider.

 

i want to take a c5 they r only 2in wider so a skinnier tire might make a fit also they r slightly longer about 4in i want to take the rear and engine for sure posibly the trans maybe brakes basicall im sick of getting beat by mustangs and i dont want to mod my 140k+ mile engine

 

I know its never been done before. That's why I said I was in for it. I'd love to see it.

Weeeeeee let's shat on people ideas! Someone will bother because they like to modify and it's an interesting exercise in fabrication.

Yeah, not so much dude. My rear fenders are ~71" (measured with a tape across the tonneau cover) and a c6s looks like it shows an overall width 72.6 and a c5 at 73" C6s are SMALL compared to thirdgens. Well over a foot shorter. Parking next to my mom's it's crazy how big my car looks. Even so, If you used coil overs or even just a custom width spring it would just be a matter of moving the control arm mount points where ever you wanted and custom length cv shafts.

I could care less about the front suspension. I just want to see a c5/c6 transaxle in a thirdgen.

 

that would be cool.

 

So would I. But unless you manage to find a wrecked/several wrecked C6's that happen have all those parts intact, its kinda not a possibility without huge sums of money.

Hey, people **** on my ideas too. Thinking about spending about $20k here on my car for a DD/AX LSx car here and alot of people keep shitting on me for it. At the point you're talking about, it'd almost be easier to cut the corvette body off and drop a Thirdgen body on whats left. So you can just get the **** over yourself!

It was meant figuratively, not literally. They do look alot wider than they are. Even so, 2.6" is alot of space to be working in when it comes to finding parts. Made several custom parts for FSAE and you have no idea how much it sucks to find out something is designed an inch too short and you made two of them for your IRS. Titanium stock isn't cheap, and on our cars, neither are 3.125" steel halfshafts. It'll suck to find out that the relatively cheap on the shelf part is an inch short and that it'll cost 2 times that to have a set of halfshafts machined so that you have the proper length.

So would I. But somethings just aren't as easily done as they are thought to be.

 

Which is kind of how any of these crazy swaps start out. You think LSx swaps started out cheap?

So, because someone else pissed in your Cheerios you have to go around pissing in everyone elses? Greeeeaaaaat. Did someone steal your matchbox car in kindergarten? I'm not talking about anything other than a transaxle swap into a thirdgen. Which is a bit easier than dropping a thirdgen body on vette frame.

 

Ian's car is about as custom as anything on this board and he has good fabrication skills. If anyone could do a 'Vette transaxle in a 3rdgen, or at least be knowledgable enough to figure out how it could be done, it would be him!

 

Lsx swaps and chassis fabrication are two different things, John.

 

Says the rich guy with the LSx in his '91!

 

Edited my post before you responded! You've been Ninja'd!!!

 

The last time a corvette axle being installed in a thirdgen was brought up here, the OP couldn't deal with opinions and melted down, went nuts, etc. If this thread even has the HINT of going in that direction I'm locking it.. Just a warning.

-- Joe

 

a transaxle from a C5 ro 6 would be awesome, lpenty fo room in the back, who needs back seats anyway. Jsut have to do a little fab work

 

No I don't think an LSx swap started out cheap.

I didn't **** on your idea. And I never had a matchbox car in kindergarten so you can just drop this useless school yard dribble. I pointed out that in the original post of yours I quoted that anything in front of the trans is kinda pointless to swap. I rather like reading a thread where people aren't jumping on other peoples backs because somebody said something to someone about something without knowing who exactly it was they are talking to. Excuse me for not knowing that you are a God among men here on the forum.

If you want to do the transaxle swap, go for it. I won't be shitting on you for it and I really don't ****ing care what you do to your car. Its your car and not mine.

 

Whoa man. If I pissed you off, it was not my intention. Just pointing out it's not the greatest idea to **** on someones idea just because someone pissed on yours. I like the banter and in no way take this personally. If you like reading threads with people not jumping on others backs, why did you you do it so fast by questions why anyone would ever want to do a drivetrain swap? That's what I meant by saying 'shatting on someones idea'. I guess I wasn't as clear as I could've been but I was more concerned with engine/trans/transaxle/rear suspension from a c5/c6 than all that+front suspension. Meh. And I'm anything but a god among men here.

We cool, mang?

 

I disagree. Any front suspension swap that gets rid of the strut towers allows for more room in the engine bay which could potentially be a positive, especially if someone got extra crazy and added turbos or something. Or hell, maybe they just want to change their plugs without having to get 6 different extensions and a swivel.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the function of the strut towers... Hell I loved driving my '92 Camaro when I had it even with the v6, but to just casually dismiss a front end swap as pointless is something I totally disagree with.

Mathius

 

You can forget gaining plug access with a double A-arm conversion. The biggest piece in your way is the frame rails themselves. If you have the skill to reinvent the whole susp/frame then you've no reason to ask advice on this forum

Seems like a dreamer to me because the donor cars he's considering are worth several times what a 3rd gen is, even in wrecked form

 

ok so ive done some more research and its gunna be to much money and custom fab so ive decided to keep my engine cam it with lifters rockers and roller arms maybe heads and maybe new pistons and bore it as for the rear and front im prolly just gunna update the bushings springs shocks maybe a new gearing and im getting a new 700r4 trans from a friend of mine thanks for the posts

 

or you could build your own IFS w/ steering setup. Spindles are cheap

 

If it can be done to a Honda Civic? A 3rd gen should be easy. I say do it!

Civette

 

Oh dear God!

I can't tell if it was a ***** getting smart or a V8 guy making fun of Civics...

 

it's a waste of a perfectly good driveline, that's what it is.

 

Yeah, were good. That day was particuarly harsh for me. Taking 18 hrs of classes, working an unpaid internship and then another job on top of that is begining to take its toll on me.

And trust me, I do find a corvette rear end swap interesting. I wouldn't do one personally because I'm a bit of a purist, but I do find the level of home done work fascinating.

 

I've seen one other 3rd gen with a Vette IRS swap on TGO, but he cut the entire rear floor area out of both cars & put the Vette section into his 3rd gen. So the entire rear section is completely different now (from 99.999% other 3rd gens) and he is super cocky, thinking he has achieved the impossible that nobody else can even come close to.

Best, IMHO for DD status, that I've seen, is on a 4th gen that retained 100% functionality of the rear seat & rear storage area. Looks 100% on the inside of the car.

 

The 4th gen formula with IRS is owned by a guy named Jay Cutshaw. I spoke with him after I did my swap, actually he called me. Anyway, he owns a company, Zeuss Performance, pix of his car are on their website. He was a great guy and I'm glad we got a chance to talk.

He has kids and needed to keep his back seat, so he made lots of compromises in suspension geometry to relocate the trailing arms lower on the knuckles. For what he does with the car that is fine and his car really is beautiful. Other items not covered in the pix that I know of are the rear sway bar and the pinion support. I've not seen his rear sway bar but he claims to have one on the car now. For the pinion support he ran a piece of square tubing across between the rear frame rails and bolted it to the stock sway bar endlink brackets. The pinion is then bolted to the square tube in the trans tunnel.

His swap does not protrude into the car at all, but he compromised geometry to do it, which for him has worked out very well. Here is a link to his pix...

http://zeuscatalog.com/jay_cutshaw_s_irs_swap

 

thats just a sin ...a bit sick too
...I will be looking forward to see this cormaro build

 

The Civette is an amazing piece of fabrication. For the budget he built it on, you simply cant beat it

 

without a doubt

 

Holy Crap! You guys just found the only honda I would ever drive! LOL. Would have thought it would do better than 10.68 @128.... Maybe it was his first run.