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My Camaro sequence starts with 1xxxxx
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My Camaro Sequence does not start with 1xxxxx
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My Firebird sequence starts with 2xxxxx
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My Firebird Sequence does not start with 2xxxxx
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Camaro vs. Firebird VIN

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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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Camaro vs. Firebird VIN

Now we know that the VIN breaks down and we can determine many things for example 1G2FS23F0NL200001 we can descifer the first 11 didgets with no problem. For example we know that 1=USA, G=GM, 2=Pontiac F=Car line "F-body", S=Firebird etc.

I did not do a search, but from what I have read here many people seem to assume that the each of our VINs is in numarical sequence order starting at 100001 and up from there Firebird or Camaro. All 4 of the Pontiacs I have owned all looked something like this: 2xxxxx. My newer Buicks all look something like this 4xxxxx.

I believe I may have stumbled upon something that is rather interesting. While at the T/A nats in Dayton this year, GM brought the very first 1992 Firebird. Interestingly enough the sequence number did not start with a 1 but rather a 2. If you look at the picture you will notice that the Production sequence number is 200001.

My question is this, Who here has a Firebird that has a production sequence that starts with a 1?
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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I just checked nine of my thirdgen pontiacs and they all start with a 2.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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I think they all start with 2, the later one's atleast....
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 03:59 PM
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My 84 starts w/ a 2.

BTW Okfoz...I love your Formulas interior! I got lots of it on video. Very nice work, it looked great. I saw it at the Nats. with George.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 04:43 PM
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Car: 1992 Firebird
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my 1992 firebird starts with 2
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 05:54 PM
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:45 PM
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82recarota: my 85 camaro's vin is 1g1fp87g4fl4xxxxx
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 08:07 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
ok I was wondering what they would do when production exceeded 100,000 I bet they went to 4xx,xxx & 5xx,xxx

thanks guys/gals for the info, keep it coming...
thanks TAdan for the complement, I remember you...


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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 02:34 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by 82RECAROTA
Camaro:
'82-1xxxxx & 2xxxxx
'83-1xxxxx
'84-2xxxxx
'85-1xxxxx, 4xxxxx, & 5xxxxx
'86-1xxxxx
'87-1xxxxx
'88-1xxxxx
'89-1xxxxx
'90-1xxxxx
'91-1xxxxx
'92-1xxxxx
That is pretty accurate list, and to add to it, here is the Firebird equivalent. to the best of my knowledge, it's complete. 85 seems like the oddball year for both cars:

Firebird:
'82-5xxxxx
'83-2xxxxx
'84-2xxxxx
'85-2xxxxx, 6xxxxx
'86-2xxxxx
'87-2xxxxx
'88-2xxxxx
'89-2xxxxx
'90-2xxxxx
'91-2xxxxx
'92-2xxxxx
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 01:54 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
If those numbers are right (I am not doubting you, Just have a question) what would they do if they exceeded 100,000 units???

Apparently the Camaro had 100,000+ units for 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89, 91.
And Firebird exceeded 100,000 units for 82, 84 & 86???

there is only 6 numbers in the sequence, 2 cars should not have the same sequence number should it?

does anyone know???

John
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 03:09 PM
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