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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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HMMM 5.7's with 5-speeds!?!

I know that no 5.7 was ever put into production with a manual, but did I miss something #17 on this quiz says that it did for a short time in 86 and early 87. I think this is But what does everyone else think?

I'm sticking to my answer of no 5.7's ever having manual. Do u guys think its BS or is it true?

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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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Nope there weren't any. Dont you think if there were a few, that someone on here would show up with one?
Old Mar 25, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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Yea I know that none were produced!!! Thats why I posted...but this quiz seems to think otherwise
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 07:32 AM
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Just one more reason why I don't go to that website. Whoever put it together doesn't know some of the basic facts about our cars. It's really sad because you would think (and hope) that thorough research should take place before publishing data on the internet...... This is how some of those "rare facts" you hear from time to time are based upon.
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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I was looking for the email I received from the webmaster at IROC-Z.com when I challenged him on the answers to the quiz.

His answers are tricks to the questions on some of them.
For Example:
When did Chevrolet produce the first IROC-Z?
His answer is 1985. In actuality, the first ones were made in late calendar year 84 as an 85 model. But in reality speaking, we keep 1985 as the first year, referring to model year. Correct answer.

But, in this example:
In what year did the 5.7 liter engine first become available in the IROC-Z?
He responded back to me that it was available in late calendar year 86 on the 87 model year car. So his answer is 1986, when in reality, it's 1987.

His answers are skewed heavily from reality and plays with words to get people to fail the test. BTW, I got a 65% when I took it.

Playing his word games only works for him. Look at this example:
In what year did the style of aluminum wheel change for the IROC-Z?
The year they changed was 1987. The model year was 1988. The model year car comes out in the previous year. So in 1987, there were new styled rims on the new 1988 IROC-Z. Again, this works for him with his wording for 1988 as an answer when refernecing model year, but the 5.7 being available in 1986 because the 87's were available in 86 works for him when referencing the calender year.

To put it lightly, the guys an idiot.

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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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I thought that they did actually make a couple of them to test it and see how it held up. Not that they would have ever been sold.
Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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I thought that they did actually make a couple of them to test it and see how it held up. Not that they would have ever been sold.
They may have but it was NEVER a production option that the public could get factory! Even if GM did it, no one knows that they did.

Scott--I agree with ya on the fact of the guy being an idiot. I took the test and got an 85% and the ones I got wrong were the BS questions

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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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Yea, GM had pre-87 Camaros with the 5.7 in them, but they would have been either stored away or destroyed, never sold.
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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Yea GM made 50 or so 5.7 in 86 for test only (unknown tranny used)...not one was ever sold...like air-adam said!
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 12:40 AM
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Where do these cars go? Are they converted back and sold, given away, put in a warehouse, destroyed?

And I got 70%, expert guesser here

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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 12:43 AM
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pretty sure most are destroyed and a few prolly kept around and stored...I really dont know thats just my guess
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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Too bad they didnt have quiz like this when i was in school where did iroc-z get there info?
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Fbirdta878787
pretty sure most are destroyed and a few prolly kept around and stored...I really dont know thats just my guess
GM's space saver, called a Crusher and stores car in two foot square cubes.
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by DJP87Z28
GM's space saver, called a Crusher and stores car in two foot square cubes.
Why would they do such a thing
I would gladly take 50 350/5spd combinations off there hands
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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If you noticed on the quiz he states that the 5 speed was never an option on the camaro in one question, then says it was possible on a few, anyone else catch that??
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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My ***, that site is still up?

I remember that that guy registered that domain name about a week before I tried to. :-/

Then shortly after, he stole every image and bit of tech info I had on my site. The only accurate info he has is the stuff he lifted from me.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by PyRo9862
Why would they do such a thing

because pre-production test cars dont have a VIN and cant be sold to the public anyway.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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Ther is also a question on there with 2 correct answers. The one about which tranny was not available with the 5.7. There wasn't ever a 5 speed auto either. That guy may have gotten some info from this book my kid has. It says that the IROC was availble with 5.7/5 speed. I'd like to slap the crap out of people that publish misinformation, hoping that people will be too dumb to catch it.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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Most people that publish stuff are at least willing to make corrections when notified of an error. The guy over there isn't even willing to admit a mistake. I'm sure I'm not the only one that has informed him of incorrect information.

Jim, I remember back like 4 years now, that you had listed on your site regular updates about iroc-z.com stealing your pictures and all your information. Does that mean you were at one point as inaccurate as him, or did he screw that up also?

I prefer your site over his, because the majority of the info is more accurate. I just wish the boards didn't get so outta hand with the language and content.

The only thing I use iroc-z.com for now is some rpo info and advertisement info. It's nice seeing the rpo codes listed in a table with pricing next to it.

He still never fixed the 87 paint codes. He has dark red metallic as 84. I told him it's 74. he even has a pic of my window sticker and still won't change it.
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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i beg to differ...friends 89 iroc, 45k miles, power everything, 350 tpi, 5 spd, hard top 3.23 posi one of the rarest cars i've ever seen

ps: i don't know vin or rpo codes but the 5 spd may have been swapped in by the 1st owenr but as far as i know its just the way it came from the factory
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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The tranny was swapped in or the motor was swapped. No 350s with 5 speeds ever in a 3rd gen from the factory.

If you check the VIN, the 8th character is more than likely not an "8" designating the 350. If it is an "8", check the RPO codes and the tranny code will probably be MX0, not MM5. I would think that the car is still stock at 45k miles and the owner thinks he has a 350. You can't distinguish the 305 TPI from the 350 TPI by looks. They look identical.
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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Also 89's with factory 5 speeds did not come with 3.23 posi rear gears.
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 08:03 AM
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The admin's name at IROC-Z.com is Allan. He once posted here asking a ton of history questions to which I answered several, if not all. He took my information and used it on his site. There's nothing wrong with this BUT I had a problem with the fact that he did not let his intentions be known. Something like, "I'm populating data for a new Camaro website -- please help." So, I check out his website. This was about the time when the word "merger" was being used, referring to Jim's site. In any case, Allan asked me to moderate his History board. I declined. He then turned nasty. Enough said.

Allan definitely has no clue to the difference between calendar year and model year.

This thread has served its purpose and is stagnant. I'm going to close it because tangents seem to be the primary course now. Unless Scott wants to post info on 350/5-speeds in the "Please read before you post" thread, I'll go ahead and do it later. Scott, you up to it?

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