I have read in a few places that all 15th Anniversary Trans Am models came with "WS6"

I don't see it anywhere on the label though.

It was recently determined that this car I have truly is a 1984 15th Anniversary car.

Now I am confused. (not surprisingly...)

Here are some RPO label pics I snapped;







PICS are hard to read so here are all the codes:

AAA C60 K34 UT1 YT1 AK1 DX1 L69 UU7 YT9 AM9 D02 MK6 U21 Y06 AQ9 D1C MM5 U23 Y82 AU3 D35 NA5 U25 11A A01 D42 N81 U27 11L A31 D80 NOD U29 11U BV8 D85 NP5 U73 6XW B20 E5Z N33 U81 601 B34 E6E N65 VD6 604 B35 GT4 N96 V73 609 B48 G80 QDZ WS4 7XW B97 J65 TR9 W62 8UZ CC1 K19 T81 YR2 9WA C49 K22 UP8 YS1 WU1

 

Thats very interesting. My old 15th anniversary had WS6 listed on the RPO list on the underside of the console lid. Mine was a 5-speed car too. I'll have to check into his....

 

Is your car painted white and have you matched the VIN on that RPO sheet to the VIN on the car?

 

AAA C60 K34 UT1 YT1
AK1 DX1 L69 UU7 YT9
AM9 D02 MK6 U21 Y06
AQ9 D1C MM5 U23 Y82
AU3 D35 NA5 U25 11A
A01 D42 N81 U27 11L
A31 D80 NOD U29 11U
BV8 D85 NP5 U73 6XW
B20 E5Z N33 U81 601
B34 E6E N65 VD6 604
B35 GT4 N96 V73 609
B48 G80 QDZ WS4 7XW
B97 J65 TR9 W62 8UZ
CC1 K19 T81 YR2 9WA
C49 K22 UP8 YS1 WU1

You have the 11U & 11L White which would indicate that your car was indeed white from the factory.

According to the Standard Catalog of Firebird: the following was Manditory for the 15th
L69 HO Engine
W62 Aero Package

According to the Firebird Red Book the WS6 was included with the L69 HO Package when put with the MM5 Manuyal Trans? P 113 You have Both... yet no WS6

11A I belive would indicate a White Body Accent Stripe white stripe white car...
604 & 609 Gray Seats and Seatbelts (consistant with the 15th)
601 indicates Gray Interior trim... Did not the 15th come with White Trim on the Steering Wheel, and Shifter??? The plot Thickens...

You also have the QDZ option which indicates the 16" x 8" Tires and Rims only included on WS6 Trans Ams from 85-87 and the 87 Formula.


John

 

Y82 = 15th T/A in 1984.
QDZ = 16" 15th T/A wheels (the white ones). Like Okfoz said, also used on the 85-86 WS6 cars and 87 Formys.
L69= The right motor.

Why you dont have WS6 listed is strange.

 

Thanks for the input to all...

Still confused though...

Everything seems to be in order just no actual letters "WS6"

Even the springs come up as "Computer Selected" when I ran all the codes...

Anyone else care to chime in with the million dollar answer????

 

that is very strange maybe they were using a different rpo for ws6? but i doubt it

 

Sounds reasonable BUT I decoded ALL the RPO's and NONE say anything about PERF. SUSP...

Just what I mentioned about the springs...

 

What is really odd is I thought all Trans Am's came with at least the base "performance Suspension" I think its the Y99 "Rally Tuned Suspension".

I could be wrong tho all I know is Formula stuff like the back of my hand.

John

 

Maybe it's the first known 15th anniversary Trans Am without WS6.

 

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bingo i'd say this is it

 

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Thanks for all the added suggestions!

Now where exactly do I look for the cowl tag...?

 

On the front frame member under the hood is where you will find the cowl tag.

 

Just found what I think is my cowl tag (metal square with characters stamped into it, riveted just infront of the radiator support) and it reads;

Top Row: E04A 2FS87N 231661> (My Last 6 of the VIN)
_________^
_________(zero)

Second Row: 11L 11U Enamel >(Paint RPO's From Label?)

Third Row: 604 A09 CC1
__________^___^
__________(zero)(zero)
Fourth Row: W62 BOT
________________^
______________(Letter "O")
Last Row: 095617 484761
_________^
________(zero)

(Or vice versa but I think I read it right)

Hope we can crack the mystery with this new found info...
Thanks again for the help!

 

DOH! I knew i should have responded sooner...

Any one out there that can help using my new found info?

Please and thank you...

:hail:

P.S.
I promise to respond sooner!

 

Top Row: E04A 2FS87N 231661

E = Model Year (1984)

04A Build Date ( April 1st week)

2 = Pontiac
F = F-Body
S = Firebird (which does not make sence since you have a T/A )
87 Body type (2 door coupe)

N = Norwood

Second Row:
11L = White (UPPER)
11U = White (Lower)

Third Row:
604 = Leather (Light Sand Gray)
AQ9 = Articulating Bucket 0 should be a "Q"
CC1 = T-tops

Fourth Row:
W62 = Aero Package
BOT = ( I have no idea )

Last Row: 095617 484761 (Dont know)

At least your closer than you were 10 min ago

John

 

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I would be curious to see the VIN... Seing that he has a 1G2FS car which would indicate a Firebird... BUT he has the W62 Package that was T/A only...

This is one Odd car in my book...

John

 

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I thought I included the VIN earlier...

Here it is:

1G2AW87G9EN231661

Looks like we're getting closer...

I can't figure out what "BOT" could be either... I don't see it on the RPO label either although I am going cross eyed staring at the same sequence of letters over and over... I did however notice the "AQ9" typo that I made!

Thanks again!

Hope I can help some of you guys out in the future!

 

One issue I have with a friend right now is he claims his car is a Firehawk, not a Firebird. I argue with him stating that the Firebird is the Pontiac model name and the Firehawk is the submodel. Just as I have a Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (IROC-Z). He disagrees and feels that he has a Pontiac Firehawk.

This relates to the same issue raised by John. The cowl tag denotes the model as a Firebird. Other options and codes make it a Trans Am or a Formula

 

I did notice one of my RPO codes is listed as:

WS4 : MODEL CONVERSION, TRANS AM

The rest of my codes are listed as:

AAA : 4-WAY MANUAL SEAT ADJUSTER
C60 : HVAC SYSTEM, AIR CONDITIONER FRT MAN CONTROLS
K34 : CRUISE CONTROL, AUT0MATIC, ELECTRONIC
UT1 : TONE GENERATOR, WARNING
YT1 : BUILD UP DR & QTR
AK1 : RESTRAINT SYSTEM, FRT, CTR, RR SEAT, FRT SHLDR,
DX1 : STRIPE, FRT END, HWD
L69 : ENGINE, GAS, 8 CYL, 5.OL, 4BBL, HO
UU7 : RADIO, AM/FM STEREO, CASS, CLOCK ETR
YT9 : OPTION PACKAGE, FISHER FURNISHED PARTS
AM9 : SEAT, RR, SPLIT, BACK, FLDG
D02 : PAINT, ENAMEL MASTER
MK6 : TRANSMISSION, MAN 5 SPD, B0RG WARNER, 2.95 1ST, O/D
U21 : CLUSTER, INST, OIL, COOL TEMP, VOLTS, TACH
Y06 : RING GEAR, 9.50 IN., SAGINAW, (S.P 0.)
AQ9 : SEAT, FRT BKT PASS DRIVER RECL
D1C : SPEEDOMETER, DRIVEN GEAR
MM5 : MERCHANDISED TRANS, MAN 5 SPD PROVISIONS
U23 : CLUSTER, INST, TRIM ODOM
Y82 : MERCHANDISED PKG, FORMULA
AU3 : LOCK CONTROL, SIDE DR, ELEC
D35 : MIRROR, OUTSIDE REAR VIEW
NA5 : EMISSION SYSTEM, FEDERAL, TIER O
U25 : LAMP, INTR, RR COMPT, COURTESY
11A : MOLDING COLOR, WHITE
A01 : WINDOW, TINTED, ALL SHADED, W/S
D42 : SHADE, RR COMPT SECURITY
N81 : TIRES, SPARE FULLSIZE
U27 : LAMP, INTR, I/P COMPT, COURTESY
11L : PRIMARY COLOR, WHITE
A31 : WINDOW, POWER OPERATED, SIDE
D80 : SPOILER, RR END PNL
NOD : ASSEMBLY PLANT, NORWOOD, OHIO
U29 : LAMP, INTR I/P, COURTESY
11U : PRIMARY COLOR, WHITE
BV8 : ORNAMENTATION, EXTR DR HANDLE, LOCK CYLINDER,
D85 : STRIPE, B0DY SIDE LOWER ACCENT
NP5 : STEERING WHEEL, LEATHER WRAPPED
U73 : ANTENNA, FIXED, RADIO
6XW : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, LEFT HAND
B20 : ORNAMENTATION, INTR, LUXURY
E5Z : SPEEDOMETER ADAPTER (DELETE)
N33 : STEERING COLUMN, TILT TYPE
U81 : SPEAKER SYSTEM, RR, DUAL
601 : LIGHT SAND GREY INTERIOR COLOR
B34 : COVERING, FRT FLOOR MATS CARPETED INSERT
E6E : SLEEVE, SPEEDOMETER GEAR
N65 : WHEEL & TIRE,SPARE, SPACE SAVER, STEEL
VD6 : BUMPER PROVISIONS, FRT, ALUMINUM
604 : TRIM COMBINATION, LEATHER, LT DRIFTWOOD (4)
B35 : COVERING, REAR, FLOOR MATS CARPETED INSERT
GT4 : AXLE REAR, 3.73 RATIO
N96 : WHEEL, 16 X 8, CAST ALUMINUM
V73 : ANTENNA, FIXED
609 : SEAT BELT COLOR, MED COGNAC (91)
B48 : TRIM EQUIPMENT, LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT
G80 : AXLE POSITRACTION, LIMITED SLIP
QDZ : TIRE ALL, P245/50VR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HW4
7XW : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, RIGHT HAND
B97 : ORNAMENTATION, EXTR MLDG, LOWER ACCENT
J65 : BRAKE SYSTEM, PWR, FRT & RR DISC
TR9 : LAMP, GROUP
W62 : ORNAMENTATION, AERO PACKAGE
8UZ : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, LEFT HAND
CC1 : ROOF HATCH, REMOVABLE PANELS, GLASS
K19 : REACTOR SYSTEM, AIR INJECTION
T81 : LAMP, TAIL AND STOP DELUXE YR2 : SEAT FRT, CUSTOM
9WA : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, RIGHT HAND
C49 : DEFOGGER, RR WINDOW, ELECTRIC
K22 : GENERATOR, 94 AMP
UP8 : STEREO RADIO INSTALLMENT PROVISIONS
YS1 : SEAT,RR CUST
WU1 : INSTRUMENT LIGHT SHUTOFF SWITCH

Let's see what sense we can make of this!

 

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Thanks for the corrected RPO descriptions! The ones I posted are the ones that I got mostly from the decoder on this website. A couple of them that didn't come up I got from some "GTA Source" website... And I think one or two I got from the forums here...

I'm very thankfull for all the help so far. But I still don't know why there is no "WS6" listed. I guess it will just be a mystery... I am gonna order a Pontiac Historic Services package on my car like KrazyCowGirl suggested in an earlier thread and see what I can get from that...

Any further info would be appreciated!

Thanks Again!

 

Have you looked for the build sheet? The build sheet for my 84 T/A was under one of the rear seat cushions. If your car is fairly original it should still be there.

The build sheet is what the assembly line workers used as the car wen't down the assembly line. Most of the time the workers put a build sheet under a seat or on top of the gas tank.

If there is no WS6 on the build sheet then I'd really wonder if the car has WS6.

 

That's another great suggestion! I'll keep my eye on that when I get a chance to start the interior resto... I'll be taking some pics tomorow (Sunday) and I'll see if I can get a shot of what I think is the cowl tag...

Thanks again for all of your help!

 

Here are some shots of what I think is my "Cowl Tag"...
Please correct me if I'm wrong!

Pic. 1

 

And Pic. 2

 

um.. why not just measure the Front sway bar and see how many MM it is? Wont that tell you if you have ws-6?

BTW where are you in Boston. IM just outside of Boston. I'd love to see your car.

 

If this is any help I have the original window sticker to my 15th and this is what it says for the Y82.

Y82 15TH ANNIVERSARY LIMITED EDITION 3499.00
CONSISTS OF
AERO PACKAGE
SPECIAL STRIPES & EMBLEMS
HOOD APPLIQUE
LOCKING HATCH ROOF-REMOVABLE
LEATHER WRAPPED FORMULA STRG WHL
PARK BRAKE HANDLE & SHIFT ****
CARPETED SIDEWALLS
LUXURY RECARO SEATS , FRONT WITH
CLOTH & LEATHER BOLSTERS
5.0 LITER 4 BBL H.O. V-8 ENGINE
POWER BRAKES, FRONT & REAR DISC
SPECIAL HANDLING PACKAGE
TIRES, 245/50R16 BSW STL
CAST ALUMINUM WHLS-16X8

As far as the "SPECIAL HANDLING PACKAGE" it had a 25mm rear sabilizer bar and the WS6 of that year was only 23mm from what I remember.

 

WOW! Thanks so much for the new info!!!!

To: Crovax
I am in the Roslindale part of Boston... But the car is at my buddy's house in Dedham...

You can see all the pics I have so far on my cardomain site which is linked in my sig.

Thanks again for everyone's help!
:hail:

 

I , too, have a 15th, and it aslo does not list WS6. All 15ths were, however, WS6 cars. Depending on the plant, they didn't include it as an RPO. Similer the the way the omitted J65 from some WS6 and WS7 cars. It is a redundant code. Also on the !5, WS6 had sway bars that were eventually used in the 85 WS6 cars.



-D-

97 WS6 Trans Am Chameleon
84 WS6 Trans Am
84 Trans Am convertible
84 Trans Am KITT

 

That seems to be the popualr answer, that they didn't list the WS6 due to being redundant... I can at least sleep at night now. Until I look under the seats for the build sheet, or when I order a PHS kit and end up more confused than I am already............



Who knows, maybe it will all make sense once I get my hands on those two other things.

Thanks again for the input!