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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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L69 - SS vs Z28

Maybe someone out there knows the answer to this one.
The L69 in the SS was rated at 180hp/225tq while the same engine in a Z28 was rated at 190hp/240tq. GM shows a different PROM for each car (both with AT and 3.73's). If the ratings are right for each car maybe the PROM's make the difference. Any thoughts?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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A glance at the air cleaner might yield a clue
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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Yeh that and maybe the electric fan contributes too. Anybody got an old '85 Z28 L69 PROM they'd like to get rid of? Might be interesting to compare the two.

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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by RB83L69
A glance at the air cleaner might yield a clue
Yea, in some models, with the same engine the Camaro had about 5 more HP than the Firebird due to the air cleaner.. The later 350 TPI engines had 235hp in the Camaro and 230 in the Firebird.

The Camaro drew cold air from the front of the hood.. Because of the lower hood line and aerodynamic snout, the 'Bird couldn't do this and instead it had a long plastic duct with two 90 degree bends going to a round cannister tucked inside the engine bay near the right fender.

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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 06:50 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
I guess I am lost, I did not know there was a SS third Gen

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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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Monte Carlo SS
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
ok, I did not read far enough to the left to see his Vehicle information, my bad.

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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 11:38 PM
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What would the effect be if you put an L69 prom chip into an LG4 ?
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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one problem you would have is that the LG4 does not have a knock sensor (at least early ones did not). The L69 computer uses this sensor to aide in having a more aggressive timing curve.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
I believe both the 86 & 87 LG4 had the knock sensor. My 87 did for sure.

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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Perhaps Exhaust Size and bents make a difference.

I heard that GM had quoted that was the difference in the HP in the Camaro LS1 and the Corvette LS1.

Later, Garrett
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