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Car: 83 ta pace
Engine: small block
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having trouble sorting out my vin number have an 83 ta but the 8th number is an S the 7th is a 7 and the 10th is a D all the charts i have found show this to be impossable. this is a daytona 500 pace car the paint ,interior,under hood body plates and workings inside the doors are correct for 1983 model year and as far as i can tell all original sheet metal and 2 tone paint 305 cfi motor and o/d trany red instrument lighting not bulbs and leather recaro seats any help is very welcome as am trying to restore thanks
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
what is the VIN? you gave us a little but not enough to be conclusive.
It should be:
1 - United States
G - GM
2 - Pontiac
A - Seatbelt restraint
W - Trans AM
87 - 2 Door coupe
S - 305 ci V8 LU5 (1983) (Cross Fire)
? - Check Diget
D - 1983
L or N - Van Nuys or Norwood
2 - Pontiac
xxxxx
whats the problem?
It should be:
1 - United States
G - GM
2 - Pontiac
A - Seatbelt restraint
W - Trans AM
87 - 2 Door coupe
S - 305 ci V8 LU5 (1983) (Cross Fire)
? - Check Diget
D - 1983
L or N - Van Nuys or Norwood
2 - Pontiac
xxxxx
whats the problem?
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Car: 83 ta pace
Engine: small block
Transmission: auto o/d
thanks okfoz
your decode matches what i have! several other decoders on the net are bogas!!!
do you have any production numbers for hard tops produced as pace cars?
read somewhere only about 160 made thanks again and have a great day
your decode matches what i have! several other decoders on the net are bogas!!!
do you have any production numbers for hard tops produced as pace cars?
read somewhere only about 160 made thanks again and have a great day
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From: Dallas
Car: 1982 Trans Am KITT Replica
Engine: LU5 305 CROSSFIRE
Transmission: TH-350
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3:23
Originally posted by 11secharleybboy
thanks okfoz
your decode matches what i have! several other decoders on the net are bogas!!!
do you have any production numbers for hard tops produced as pace cars?
read somewhere only about 160 made thanks again and have a great day
thanks okfoz
your decode matches what i have! several other decoders on the net are bogas!!!
do you have any production numbers for hard tops produced as pace cars?
read somewhere only about 160 made thanks again and have a great day
If you do,Take care of it cause only 2 have surfaced recently.
Try and post pics and data plate info if you can.
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Car: 83 ta pace
Engine: small block
Transmission: auto o/d
3rdgenparts hi
yes i recently traded a 66buick special for a 83 daytona hardtop 97000 miles but it needs a lot of work. 40 mph top speed on delivery gutted the cat and tweaked the valves speedo now pegged before third shift. to be worth taking pics needs new hood, pass fender was told encountered a deer and drivers quarter has some cancer starting. the front seat covers are shot the motor runs but the cam is flat and the bottom end ratteled like mad when i changed the oil, the car drives execelent with no under body rust when i checked it out at a buddys muffler shop. i have been searching for seat covers for the recaro's or some one that can copy them with out selling my first born. i am planing to swap out the 305 for a hot 350 i built a few years ago for a sleeper station wagon and keep the crossfire, hooker shorty headers and custom duals but trash the smog inj system have been wondering if i should keep the old engine for numbers maching car value but need more info on this subject i do not plan on letting this car go it's a keeper and should look like new by spring. any help on locating more research material is greatly apprecatied. have a great day and stay safe chuck
yes i recently traded a 66buick special for a 83 daytona hardtop 97000 miles but it needs a lot of work. 40 mph top speed on delivery gutted the cat and tweaked the valves speedo now pegged before third shift. to be worth taking pics needs new hood, pass fender was told encountered a deer and drivers quarter has some cancer starting. the front seat covers are shot the motor runs but the cam is flat and the bottom end ratteled like mad when i changed the oil, the car drives execelent with no under body rust when i checked it out at a buddys muffler shop. i have been searching for seat covers for the recaro's or some one that can copy them with out selling my first born. i am planing to swap out the 305 for a hot 350 i built a few years ago for a sleeper station wagon and keep the crossfire, hooker shorty headers and custom duals but trash the smog inj system have been wondering if i should keep the old engine for numbers maching car value but need more info on this subject i do not plan on letting this car go it's a keeper and should look like new by spring. any help on locating more research material is greatly apprecatied. have a great day and stay safe chuck
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From: Dallas
Car: 1982 Trans Am KITT Replica
Engine: LU5 305 CROSSFIRE
Transmission: TH-350
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3:23
Originally posted by 11secharleybboy
3rdgenpartrs
ps the data plate you wanted it the one on the rad support correct? will check back chuck
3rdgenpartrs
ps the data plate you wanted it the one on the rad support correct? will check back chuck
Yes that is correct
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Car: 83 ta pace
Engine: small block
Transmission: auto o/d
3rdgenparts i have the plate # for you i'm not sure on decode but will try to match what i have here
D 01B 2FS87 N 211501
604 11L 11U 82ME
A09
Y82 N09 D80
055140 586769
it is very confusing the windshield vin is 1G2AW87S4D211501
i thought the third set of body # should code for a ta
i don't know where to look for more plates no build sheets in seats or kick panels also inspected both doors but car has not had a repaint just some touch up on the pass rear quarter.
still have not found info on if the block # should have a partial match also.
also what to thank okfoz again for the in put
i can use all the help i can get thanks again chuck
D 01B 2FS87 N 211501
604 11L 11U 82ME
A09
Y82 N09 D80
055140 586769
it is very confusing the windshield vin is 1G2AW87S4D211501
i thought the third set of body # should code for a ta
i don't know where to look for more plates no build sheets in seats or kick panels also inspected both doors but car has not had a repaint just some touch up on the pass rear quarter.
still have not found info on if the block # should have a partial match also.
also what to thank okfoz again for the in put
i can use all the help i can get thanks again chuck
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From: Chicagoland
Car: 1983 Daytona Trans Am
Engine: LG4
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Congrats on your hardtop Daytona.
D 01B 2FS87 N 211501
604 11L 11U 82ME
AQ9
Y82 N09 D80
055140 586769
1G2AW87S4DN211501
Y82 = Daytona
Absence of CC1 = Hardtop
D 01B 2FS87 N 211501
604 11L 11U 82ME
AQ9
Y82 N09 D80
055140 586769
1G2AW87S4DN211501
Y82 = Daytona
Absence of CC1 = Hardtop
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
D 01B 2FS87 N 211501
604 11L 11U 82ME
A09
Y82 N09 D80
055140 586769
D = Model Year = 1983
01B = Build Date = January 1st week
2 = Pontiac
F = F-body
S = Firebird Line
87 = 2 Door coupe
N = Norwood OH
2 = Pontiac
11501 = Body Number
60(4) = Light Sand Gray (Leather?)
11L = Exterior White Lower
11U = Exterior White Upper
82M = Dark Sand Gray Moulding??
E = Paint Type (Enamel)
AQ9 = Articulating Bucket Seats
Y82 = Trans AM
N09 = Locking Filler Door
D80 = Spoiler (deck lid)
John
604 11L 11U 82ME
A09
Y82 N09 D80
055140 586769
D = Model Year = 1983
01B = Build Date = January 1st week
2 = Pontiac
F = F-body
S = Firebird Line
87 = 2 Door coupe
N = Norwood OH
2 = Pontiac
11501 = Body Number
60(4) = Light Sand Gray (Leather?)
11L = Exterior White Lower
11U = Exterior White Upper
82M = Dark Sand Gray Moulding??
E = Paint Type (Enamel)
AQ9 = Articulating Bucket Seats
Y82 = Trans AM
N09 = Locking Filler Door
D80 = Spoiler (deck lid)
John
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Car: 83 ta pace
Engine: small block
Transmission: auto o/d
thanks guys i am getting closer to cracking all the codes still need to find out if i need to save the old engine block
thanks chuck
thanks chuck
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
If the block is original it will have the folowing:
2DN211501 its found under your altinator, there is a little hog that sticks out and its stamped in there
2 - Pontiac
D - 1983
N - Norwood
2 - Pontiac
11501 - Production #
John
2DN211501 its found under your altinator, there is a little hog that sticks out and its stamped in there
2 - Pontiac
D - 1983
N - Norwood
2 - Pontiac
11501 - Production #
John
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Car: 83 ta pace
Engine: small block
Transmission: auto o/d
thanks okfoz i will pull the alt. tommorow and take a look found out the rear axle housing was swaped out for an 86 unit the salvage yard paint was a dead giveaway planed to pull the cover and check the ratio so i know what i've got.
thanks for all the help.
p.s. do you know 84L69TA have been trying to get in touch on some parts he has for sale no responce
thanks for all the help.
p.s. do you know 84L69TA have been trying to get in touch on some parts he has for sale no responce
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Rather than pull the cover, why not simply count the turns??? Not as accurate but it would give you an idea...
A 3.73 gear for example, you would turn the driveshaft approximately 3 and 3/4 turns to get a wheel to turn one time.
John
A 3.73 gear for example, you would turn the driveshaft approximately 3 and 3/4 turns to get a wheel to turn one time.
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Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
actually on an open diff(if its open) it will have to multiplied x2 since the axles/wheels will turn opposite directions the same distance/amount
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Car: 83 ta pace
Engine: small block
Transmission: auto o/d
john and fast68
i figured it needed the gear lube changed anyway plus wanted to make sure has a posi unit in it, never know what you have when you find salvage markings just checking the brakes found one early caliper and one late one and the late one's e brake is locked up inside and won't adjust
thanks again and have a great turkey day
chuck
i figured it needed the gear lube changed anyway plus wanted to make sure has a posi unit in it, never know what you have when you find salvage markings just checking the brakes found one early caliper and one late one and the late one's e brake is locked up inside and won't adjust
thanks again and have a great turkey day
chuck
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Originally posted by Fast68
actually on an open diff(if its open) it will have to multiplied x2 since the axles/wheels will turn opposite directions the same distance/amount
actually on an open diff(if its open) it will have to multiplied x2 since the axles/wheels will turn opposite directions the same distance/amount
If that is the case then spin the pinion one time, count the revolutions of each tire, then add them together if different, then devide by 2 to get the ratio...

OR just change the DIFF lube and count the teeth
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